You don't actually think that AT&T is going to charge only $175 ETF on a $199 subsidized iPhone, when the non-contract one they are selling for $599?
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You don't actually think that AT&T is going to charge only $175 ETF on a $199 subsidized iPhone, when the non-contract one they are selling for $599?
Subsidized vehicles?
Damn. That's actually not a bad idea... If Shell subsidized my Tahoe for, say, $10K off the price, I would gladly fill up at Shell stations exclusively for a few years. 12,000 miles per year @ 15 mpg = ~$4000 in fuel expenses. At some point, this may be the only way auto manufacturers can move the fuel inefficient vehicles. Then again, there's good arguments for these rigs to just "go away"...
Damn. That's actually not a bad idea... If Shell subsidized my Tahoe for, say, $10K off the price, I would gladly fill up at Shell stations exclusively for a few years. 12,000 miles per year @ 15 mpg = ~$4000 in fuel expenses. At some point, this may be the only way auto manufacturers can move the fuel inefficient vehicles. Then again, there's good arguments for these rigs to just "go away"...
okay, does anyone know if the activation in the UK will be the same as in the US? could it possibly be like the 1st gen activation?
what would stop me from getting a phone over there, bringing it back, and unlocking it (still using it on the att network, as im a customer there now - in contract w/unlimited medianet)?
what would stop me from getting a phone over there, bringing it back, and unlocking it (still using it on the att network, as im a customer there now - in contract w/unlimited medianet)?
so if u buy an unsubsidized iphone in australia/UK's apple store or something.... to which provider would it be locked to?
You don't actually think that AT&T is going to charge only $175 ETF on a $199 subsidized iPhone, when the non-contract one they are selling for $599?
Has anyone seen anything different?
If you don't wait 30 days you have to return the phone, as far as I know. Also don't have to pay the termination fee, but still... no phone.
Many people on the forums have mentioned the contract between the two is exclusive for five years. In that case, it's not tied to a particular generation of iPhone. If Apple tried to break the contract, then AT&T would've been able to sue them for breach of contract law--and rightfully so.
(I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night
Verizon and Sprint would still have to agree to Apple's terms (e.g., keeping their store off the iPhone, etc.), which they might not be willing to do. AT&T was willing to do that; hence, they got the iPhone.
Esther
You're saying the Voyager's sales have been beating the iPhone in the US? Link please? I find this hard to believe, as I have rarely if ever seen a Voyager been used whereas I have seen hundreds of people with the iPhone.
I really hate AT&T and Apple's relationship due to this very fact. I mean, a cell phone is a cell phone. The law states that cell phones can be unlocked and AT&T usually unlock the phone for you after 3 months (except the almighty iPhone). I just don't find this reasonable and I cannot believe that there aren't any lawsuits against this act. i mean, they are forcing us to use their data roaming plans and that is just ridiculous.
For those many Americans that go... "WHY DO YOU HAVE TO UNLOCK YOUR iPHONE IF IT ONLY WORKS ON AT&T?"
Well, the answer is very simple. I travel a lot to Asia and Europe and they have a very popular service that is similar to our GOPHONE. It's called PAY-AS-YOU-GO and you can top up your credit amount at various vendors. Unlocking the phone allows you to have the benefit of using this service which doesn't require a signing of any contract and costs significantly less than that of AT&T's Data Roaming Fee.
I will now pray that Zibri will have a solution for the rest of the people in this world that travels.
For those many Americans that go... "WHY DO YOU HAVE TO UNLOCK YOUR iPHONE IF IT ONLY WORKS ON AT&T?"
Well, the answer is very simple. I travel a lot to Asia and Europe and they have a very popular service that is similar to our GOPHONE. It's called PAY-AS-YOU-GO and you can top up your credit amount at various vendors. Unlocking the phone allows you to have the benefit of using this service which doesn't require a signing of any contract and costs significantly less than that of AT&T's Data Roaming Fee.
I will now pray that Zibri will have a solution for the rest of the people in this world that travels.
Where is the law that states that cell phones can be unlocked?
The copyright office exemption --- only allows you a defence against DMCA lawsuits if you can write a unlocking software on your own for your own unlocking of your cell phone.
Do you see how narrow the exemption is?
They can still sue you under a million other laws --- which is how Tracfone managed to successfully sue unlockers after the exemption has taken place.
look what i stumbled upon... http://www.welectronicsltd.com/product_info.php?cPath=83&products_id=339
what the hell ?!?
Apple iPhone 3G iPhone 100% Unlocked - PRE-ORDER
[IPHONE3G] $444.67
fake ?!?!?
what the hell ?!?
Apple iPhone 3G iPhone 100% Unlocked - PRE-ORDER
[IPHONE3G] $444.67
fake ?!?!?
Hell, if they subsidize, say a Honda Civic or a Toyota Prius... I'd do it. I don't need a car for commuting (one of the lucky ones), and making a weekend vehicle economically feasible would be interesting. But if they did it, they would be asking for higher gas rates to make up for the subsidy.
The only place in North America where the LG Voyager is sold --- is Verizon Wireless. And Verizon Wireless has sold 1.1 million LG Voyagers from its launch on Nov 21 2007 to April 11 2008.
http://english.etnews.co.kr/news/detail.html?id=200804110002
AT&T activated 900,000 iphones in the christmas quarter and announced an additional 500,000 activations in the third week of May. Just extrapolate the "slow months" quarters from Jan to April --- we will give AT&T 400,000 activations for the same 2008 period as the LG Voyager announcement.
Unless you allocate more than 700,000 iphones out of the total 900,000 iphones in the Christmas quarter to the period between Nov 21 to Dec 31 2007 --- then the LG Voyager would have beaten the iphone numbers.
Me, too. Holding out until there's confirmed unlock for T-Mobile. I'm keeping my eyes peeled on the hackint0sh forums
Hi all,
the feed is a little confusing now:
Will we still be able to buy the new iPhone in the Apple-Store as we used to with the first generation, or do we have to sign some sort of contract right away? And what is the price ( I wouldn't care if it is looked).
Why shouldn't we be able to use the US UMTS network? When I travel to the US, I use my MDA III within the AT-T UMTS network which I can clearly identify because it is marked 3G.
Kind regards shortie
the feed is a little confusing now:
Will we still be able to buy the new iPhone in the Apple-Store as we used to with the first generation, or do we have to sign some sort of contract right away? And what is the price ( I wouldn't care if it is looked).
Why shouldn't we be able to use the US UMTS network? When I travel to the US, I use my MDA III within the AT-T UMTS network which I can clearly identify because it is marked 3G.
Kind regards shortie
Just announced: Belgium iPhone to be sold unlocked with no subscription from July11th
Hi,
The local carrier Mobistar announced on a press conference this afternoon that the iPhone will be sold in Belgium fully unlocked without need to have a subscription to a specific carrier. So anybody can pick an iphone, unbrick and use the SIM card of any carrier he is paying for !
Price is 8Gb 525€ - 16Gb 615€
The unbricking can be either done in the store or at home through iTunes 7.7 which will be launched on friday.
First 250 iphones will be sold from friday 0.01am in one store in Brussels.
Voicemail will not be available in the first weeks/months.
T.
Hi,
The local carrier Mobistar announced on a press conference this afternoon that the iPhone will be sold in Belgium fully unlocked without need to have a subscription to a specific carrier. So anybody can pick an iphone, unbrick and use the SIM card of any carrier he is paying for !
Price is 8Gb 525€ - 16Gb 615€
The unbricking can be either done in the store or at home through iTunes 7.7 which will be launched on friday.
First 250 iphones will be sold from friday 0.01am in one store in Brussels.
Voicemail will not be available in the first weeks/months.
T.
No unlocked iPhones from store in Brazil
Long time viewer and an unlocked iPhone user since Aug/07, this is my first post!!!!
iPhone 3G is to be launched in Brazil as well. Each of the major mobile service providers are negotiating individually with Apple. It has been mentioned in the media that the iPhone will only be sold with a plan at the provider store. There are no Apple Stores in Brazil runned by Apple.
There is a remaining question because Brazil is probably the only country where Mobile Companies are oblied to provide free unclock to any sold phone. There is a chance Brazilians will be able to get unlocked iPhones out of the shelf but always with a 12/24mo service plan. Just to get an idea of pricing, It has been said over the web that a Claro (service provider) research with possible iPhone buyers, mentioned an iPhone plan for 12Mo for USD299 (phone) + USD299 a month minimum pack. A iPhone without a plan would cost USD1.600!!!!
Long time viewer and an unlocked iPhone user since Aug/07, this is my first post!!!!
iPhone 3G is to be launched in Brazil as well. Each of the major mobile service providers are negotiating individually with Apple. It has been mentioned in the media that the iPhone will only be sold with a plan at the provider store. There are no Apple Stores in Brazil runned by Apple.
There is a remaining question because Brazil is probably the only country where Mobile Companies are oblied to provide free unclock to any sold phone. There is a chance Brazilians will be able to get unlocked iPhones out of the shelf but always with a 12/24mo service plan. Just to get an idea of pricing, It has been said over the web that a Claro (service provider) research with possible iPhone buyers, mentioned an iPhone plan for 12Mo for USD299 (phone) + USD299 a month minimum pack. A iPhone without a plan would cost USD1.600!!!!
yes we did go thru this already.... and also we "went thru" the fact that this no-commitment doesn't mean squat and that the phone is still locked.
all it means is that you don't need to commit to the package they are offering you the iphone for at the 199/299 price, tag. it just means u still need to be teathered to AT&T but at whatever other AT&T plan you wish to chose.....
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no registre number no certificate
yet they ask to make payment via money trnasfer send the money on a private person name James Cartwright
have you ever seen shop selling like this , it is against the comerce corporation sell without make payment on the shop store name
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THIS is a very FAKE company
look at the web page there have no address no contact phone
no registre number no certificate
yet they ask to make payment via money trnasfer send the money on a private person name James Cartwright
have you ever seen shop selling like this , it is against the comerce corporation sell without make payment on the shop store name
if they have store in Italy , spain why it is not on the web page
be careful denouncilng all wrong doing like this
we must help to send thode thief to jail