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The one where I don't buy Apple products with fundamental design flaws.

You're the same guy that said on the iPad forum that you won't allow your students to use digital notes because they should use only pen and paper, and have a good calligraphy at it, and that students are "just a statistic" for you.
I would say that Apple is better off at not listening to your suggestions for design improvement.
 
This is the first of the design flaws in the rev 1 iWatch. Thanks for listening, Apple.

The other two for a reminder are:

2) Battery life a minimum of a week.
3) Always on display.

Then I might consider buying one.
Considering you think it's called iWatch, I'd say you care about the whole idea of the Apple Watch VERY little even if it had the things you mentioned.
 
Even if we get a substantially improved watch I predict existing owners unwilling or unable to upgrade will fill these forums with posts stating "it's a minor upgrade". Just as happened with early iPhone updates.

If it's "substantially improved" then why would existing owner be "unwilling" to upgrade? I can understand if they are unable to, but if it's a better watch then why wouldn't AW owners be more than willing to get the latest and greatest? I know I'll be in line if Apple pushes out something worth the coin.

Now if it is just an aesthetic tweak but same look with a new chip but no new functionality then yeah, I'll be first here to say "minor update," not out of bitterness, but truth. Financially, a $299 splurge is not going to ruin me but just the same I don't go looking to for places to burn my $.

But, yes, there will be some bitter people who wrongly assumed Apple wouldn't update regularly because of the cost of the AW. I never understood their logic because Apple updates iPads, iPhones, and Macs at least once a year and all of those have starting prices either at or higher than the Sport or stainless AW. Anyone here who spent $500+ on an Apple product or any tech should know better.
 
Nope. I guess it's possible to be 20% thinner, but the main problems with the watch revolve around battery (slow app updates, slow to load apps, screen not always on, inability to directly connect to WIFI, ability to stream music/podcasts from my phone or iTunes, etc). More than any other device, this one could be so much better if it were faster, so I'd be pretty disappointed if they just made it slimmer and didn't address the main things that hold back the watch.
 
40% thinner? That could look sleek but it's not really needed. My old watch was 1mm thicker than the Apple Watch, and it was just a dumb mechanical machine. I'm concerned that if it's too thin then Siri will be activated even more frequently than she is now when the button on the crown hits my bent wrist while doing things with my hands. At least right now it's somewhat raised.

Here is my Apple Watch 2 wish list:
  • Faster at loading apps and data from the phone. Should be able to switch between apps without taking so long. Hopefully more RAM (1GB) will help this. Perhaps a faster BT protocol could help as well. Newer iPhones have 4.2 and the Watch has 4.0. From a quick Google search, it seems like 4.2 is faster, especially at bulk data transfers, which is what the Watch really needs help with.
  • Data should be queued ahead of time for commonly used apps, such as the ones we have set as complications. For instance, if I tap on the stocks complication it takes several seconds to load, and then the numbers glitch a few times before settling in on the most current data. Maybe more RAM would help with that. But a thinner Watch might hinder that, as I imagine it would use more power.
  • Less laggy when swiping between things like glances, or scrolling content. Glances could really benefit from faster loading times. I don't often use glances because they just take too long most of the time, or I end up swiping past the one I want to use because it lags out.
  • The Taptic Engine needs work. Over time it gets kinda soft. It needs to tap harder.
  • The speaker needs a big volume boost. I have to hold my watch up really close to my face to hear people. I should be able to hear people easily with my hands on the steering wheel. Some cars have louder road noise than others, so hopefully this issue fixes itself when I finally buy a newer car later this year.
  • The display itself needs to be less reflective—especially on the SS models.
  • I would like a more fully acknowledged and advertised waterproof rating.
  • Better detection when turning your wrist to quickly check the time. Perhaps sensor hardware improvements could help with that by having better sensitivity combined with new algorithms.
  • More health sensors. It would be great if it could track glucose levels and blood pressure, among other metrics. Not sure what is possible. At least they need to open up that data port for smart watch bands—which could potentially incorporate sensors.
  • I'm actually ok with the battery life. Right now it lasts me about a day and a half. I don't see a big difference between charging it every day vs. every two days. If my iPhone 6s lasted that long (like the Plus) then I'd be really happy.
  • I'd like a round model. I'm more of a round watch guy, and my wife loves round watches as well. It doesn't bother me as much, but it bugs my wife. She also doesn't think it seems feminine enough, even with the strap options. A thinner model could possibly help with that as she doesn't like the big shiny bezel around it.
  • Needs a software feature that leashes the iPhone to the Watch, so that it alerts you when out of BT range. I've seen some apps that can do this, and I've been meaning to try them, but typically first-party solutions are much better and more reliable at lower-level things like this.
  • It really needs a native reminders app. I'm not sure how that's not a thing yet! The calendar also needs to be more advanced. Why can't I see the next month? That is especially annoying near the end of the month. I wish I could look further ahead without needing to pull out my phone.
  • There needs to be some software improvements for tapping an icon on the home screen. I hit the wrong app at least half the time, which then makes things load even slower. Maybe make it a little more zoomed in by default—or make it a setting?
  • I would like a medium gray or gunmetal SS option. I'd like that carbon coating that better resists scratches but without it being so dark. Brushed SS would also be nice.
My pie-in-the-sky wish is LTE, which means they couldn't go thin. The problem with LTE, however, is the carriers. Would you have to pay an extra $10/mo to have a data plan for your watch? Or perhaps using a digital Apple Sim, could the Watch share the same data plan as the iPhone somehow?

I have no need for FaceTime, and I can't imagine many people would use it. It would be for the "wow factor", which is why I could see them putting it in. They need something to show off in this update. If they could fit a decent 3-5mp camera in there, then it could be interesting to use it as a selfie camera and have watch apps that could post the images directly to social networking sites. I don't really see myself using it much, but that could be an interesting application. I feel like they would need a little wider angled lens for such a camera.
 
The main thing id like in a new Apple Watch is accurate heart rate tracking during workout - its currently garbage. A real heart rate monitor says i'm doing 155bpm (which I bloody well feel) and the Apple Watch things i'm doing 55bpm...which lower than most peoples resting heart rate ffs!

Not sure that is possible with optical yet. At least I've never found and optical based HRM equal to a chest strap for fast paced, real time HR info. I know Garmin has a couple optical based watches out but if you go the the Garmin forums I don't see a lot of enthusiasm from owners. Of course only complainers go to such forums so there is that, but it mirrors my experience with optical from Fitbit and AW vs my chest strap on a Garmin 620 and 630.
 
  • Better detection when turning your wrist to quickly check the time. Perhaps sensor hardware improvements could help with that by having better sensitivity combined with new algorithms.
  • I'd like a round model. I'm more of a round watch guy, and my wife loves round watches as well. It doesn't bother me as much, but it bugs my wife. She also doesn't think it seems feminine enough, even with the strap options. A thinner model could possibly help with that as she doesn't like the big shiny bezel around it.
  • I would like a medium gray or gunmetal SS option. I'd like that carbon coating that better resists scratches but without it being so dark. Brushed SS would also be nice.
My pie-in-the-sky wish is LTE, which means they couldn't go thin. The problem with LTE, however, is the carriers. Would you have to pay an extra $10/mo to have a data plan for your watch? Or perhaps using a digital Apple Sim, could the Watch share the same data plan as the iPhone somehow?

I have no need for FaceTime, and I can't imagine many people would use it. It would be for the "wow factor", which is why I could see them putting it in. They need something to show off in this update. If they could fit a decent 3-5mp camera in there, then it could be interesting to use it as a selfie camera and have watch apps that could post the images directly to social networking sites. I don't really see myself using it much, but that could be an interesting application. I feel like they would need a little wider angled lens for such a camera.

1) A camera would help with turning on and off the display. Even subtle movements could be detected, but if the camera does not recognize a face looking at it, the backlight does not come on. Save accidental turn ons, and thus battery life, not to mention keeping the backlight on as long as it recognizes a face looking at it.

2) If Apple is serious about entering the wearables market, they simply can't offer a one-sized-fits-all model for everyone they way they do with the iPad and iPhone. They need thick watches, thin watches, large watches, round watches, and different case designs. I expect them to keep the first gen watch around when they launch gen 2 (maybe with a processor bump), and offer it for $100 less. So that will at least present two different styles. And maybe that's how Apple expands the line. Eventually they will offer a round watch, unless they get cold feet about the fickle world of fashion they've opted to enter ...

3) My Titanium Citizen is my favorite. Goes with everything, and satisfies Apple's lust for premium metals. Plus, they've had experience with Titanium already.

LTE isn't really necessary for most as long as they allow new WiFi connections to be set up on the go. I find the watch extremely useful right now at all the places I've been with my phone which have internet access, and actually never take the phone with the watch. One day surely is where they are headed, but now is much too early for LTE.
 
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If people don't like the Apple watches battery life, then stop buying it!! It's not like it's been a secret but millions are buying it, and that tells Apple their is nothing wrong with its battery life so Apple will make the watch thinner, and keep the battery life the same.
 
I don't think I want a watch with a separate data plan.

Then you can get a non 3G/4G version? The Gear S2, the best looking smart watch on the market, offers all the aforementioned features while still having a Wi-Fi only model too.
 
1) A camera would help with turning on and off the display. Even subtle movements could be detected, but if the camera does not recognize a face looking at it, the backlight does not come on. Save accidental turn ons, and thus battery life, not to mention keeping the backlight on as long as it recognizes a face looking at it.

2) If Apple is serious about entering the wearables market, they simply can't offer a one-sized-fits-all model for everyone they way they do with the iPad and iPhone. They need thick watches, thin watches, large watches, round watches, and different case designs. I expect them to keep the first gen watch around when they launch gen 2 (maybe with a processor bump), and offer it for $100 less. So that will at least present two different styles. And maybe that's how Apple expands the line. Eventually they will offer a round watch, unless they get cold feet about the fickle world of fashion they've opted to enter ...

3) My Titanium Citizen is my favorite. Goes with everything, and satisfies Apple's lust for premium metals. Plus, they've had experience with Titanium already.

LTE isn't really necessary for most as long as they allow new WiFi connections to be set up on the go. I find the watch extremely useful right now at all the places I've been with my phone which have internet access, and actually never take the phone with the watch. One day surely is where they are headed, but now is much too early for LTE.

1) So... when it's dark your watch won't light up. When your watch isn't pointed directly at your face, it won't light up, etc. The existing accelerometer already detects subtle movements better than a facetime camera would be able to do. Also, having a camera constantly on looking for your face would burn more battery than your idea would conceivably save. Plus, I'm a little skeptical about the utility of a camera on the watch for facetime anyway, because the way most people look down at their watch, the image they'd be sending out over facetime is going to be an unflattering look right up the nose.

2) Part of how apple makes things work well is by limiting the hardware variables. Having a half-dozen or more versions of the shape and size would introduce too many hardware variables; so not gonna happen. The fickle world of fashion is handled by wristband options and watch face options.

3) Titanium is swell, but I think Apple has quite a lot invested in their aluminum alloys.
 
Not sure that is possible with optical yet. At least I've never found and optical based HRM equal to a chest strap for fast paced, real time HR info. I know Garmin has a couple optical based watches out but if you go the the Garmin forums I don't see a lot of enthusiasm from owners. Of course only complainers go to such forums so there is that, but it mirrors my experience with optical from Fitbit and AW vs my chest strap on a Garmin 620 and 630.
I think so too, but my biggest complaint about the watch is the heart rate monitor as well. I want a more sensitive one in the next gen. Even though the average heart rate is quite close to my chest strap during a workout, instantaneous readings can be quite wrong.
 
I've worn the sport gold watch regularly since Feb (had a weeklong fling with the SS last summer but returned it). Thinner is fine, but not a big deal for me. The current one is a bit of a chunkster but for a man's watch it isn't too thick. The camera means nothing to me as I almost never use FaceTime on my phone and am even less inclined to use it on my wrist.

What would get my attention is more serious health sensors. Back during the Watch's development there were rumors that this thing was going to read blood pressure, blood sugar levels, and even have some sort of heart attack/stroke alarm. Now THAT's the watch I'm waiting for. Til then, my first gen does what I mostly use it for (notifications) just fine. Also add me to the list of those who'd love for an always-on screen of some sort. The black square isn't super attractive. Also it's time to allow for MUCH MUCH more variety of watch faces. Open that up to third parties. The watch faces are already stale barely a year into the watch's existence.
 
I've been waiting for some good W2 rumors! I skipped the first generation since it didn't have any of the sensors I was excited for. Even if we don't get those, I'm excited for a thinner watch because I thought the W1 was a little big.
 
40% thinner? That could look sleek but it's not really needed. My old watch was 1mm thicker than the Apple Watch, and it was just a dumb mechanical machine. I'm concerned that if it's too thin then Siri will be activated even more frequently than she is now when the button on the crown hits my bent wrist while doing things with my hands. At least right now it's somewhat raised.

Here is my Apple Watch 2 wish list:
  • Faster at loading apps and data from the phone. Should be able to switch between apps without taking so long. Hopefully more RAM (1GB) will help this. Perhaps a faster BT protocol could help as well. Newer iPhones have 4.2 and the Watch has 4.0. From a quick Google search, it seems like 4.2 is faster, especially at bulk data transfers, which is what the Watch really needs help with.
  • Data should be queued ahead of time for commonly used apps, such as the ones we have set as complications. For instance, if I tap on the stocks complication it takes several seconds to load, and then the numbers glitch a few times before settling in on the most current data. Maybe more RAM would help with that. But a thinner Watch might hinder that, as I imagine it would use more power.
  • Less laggy when swiping between things like glances, or scrolling content. Glances could really benefit from faster loading times. I don't often use glances because they just take too long most of the time, or I end up swiping past the one I want to use because it lags out.
  • The Taptic Engine needs work. Over time it gets kinda soft. It needs to tap harder.
  • The speaker needs a big volume boost. I have to hold my watch up really close to my face to hear people. I should be able to hear people easily with my hands on the steering wheel. Some cars have louder road noise than others, so hopefully this issue fixes itself when I finally buy a newer car later this year.
  • The display itself needs to be less reflective—especially on the SS models.
  • I would like a more fully acknowledged and advertised waterproof rating.
  • Better detection when turning your wrist to quickly check the time. Perhaps sensor hardware improvements could help with that by having better sensitivity combined with new algorithms.
  • More health sensors. It would be great if it could track glucose levels and blood pressure, among other metrics. Not sure what is possible. At least they need to open up that data port for smart watch bands—which could potentially incorporate sensors.
  • I'm actually ok with the battery life. Right now it lasts me about a day and a half. I don't see a big difference between charging it every day vs. every two days. If my iPhone 6s lasted that long (like the Plus) then I'd be really happy.
  • I'd like a round model. I'm more of a round watch guy, and my wife loves round watches as well. It doesn't bother me as much, but it bugs my wife. She also doesn't think it seems feminine enough, even with the strap options. A thinner model could possibly help with that as she doesn't like the big shiny bezel around it.
  • Needs a software feature that leashes the iPhone to the Watch, so that it alerts you when out of BT range. I've seen some apps that can do this, and I've been meaning to try them, but typically first-party solutions are much better and more reliable at lower-level things like this.
  • It really needs a native reminders app. I'm not sure how that's not a thing yet! The calendar also needs to be more advanced. Why can't I see the next month? That is especially annoying near the end of the month. I wish I could look further ahead without needing to pull out my phone.
  • There needs to be some software improvements for tapping an icon on the home screen. I hit the wrong app at least half the time, which then makes things load even slower. Maybe make it a little more zoomed in by default—or make it a setting?
  • I would like a medium gray or gunmetal SS option. I'd like that carbon coating that better resists scratches but without it being so dark. Brushed SS would also be nice.
My pie-in-the-sky wish is LTE, which means they couldn't go thin. The problem with LTE, however, is the carriers. Would you have to pay an extra $10/mo to have a data plan for your watch? Or perhaps using a digital Apple Sim, could the Watch share the same data plan as the iPhone somehow?

I have no need for FaceTime, and I can't imagine many people would use it. It would be for the "wow factor", which is why I could see them putting it in. They need something to show off in this update. If they could fit a decent 3-5mp camera in there, then it could be interesting to use it as a selfie camera and have watch apps that could post the images directly to social networking sites. I don't really see myself using it much, but that could be an interesting application. I feel like they would need a little wider angled lens for such a camera.
Plenty of reasonable requests this time too, I think that Apple path is like this one. Only it will take them 7/8 years to implement all of these features, and I'm sure not due to technical difficulties for the majority of them.
 
You're the same guy that said on the iPad forum that you won't allow your students to use digital notes because they should use only pen and paper, and have a good calligraphy at it, and that students are "just a statistic" for you.

Are you stalking me like?

I would say that Apple is better off at not listening to your suggestions for design improvement.

So you don't think Apple should improve battery life? You don't think Apple should make the use of the iWatch display more power efficient? That's a very strange attitude to have.
 
Yeah, but Apple's thinking is that people want thinner and lighter products, not more powerful, or with better batteries.

If they use a way underclocked A9 (say to A8 performance), you'd get both a much more powerful CPU (the current one is equivalent to the A5!) that is extremely efficient. So, the battery in the current cases would likely last up to 3 days (some people with 42mm get almost to 2 days these days) if no other functions are added and be almost as fast as the the Iphone 6. The main battery eater is the screen though, so unless they have no tech for that, getting beyond 3 days would be impossible as the CPU would now take only a small portion of overall battery usage.
 
I've seen assessments in both directions regarding Kuo's actual level of accuracy. I just find it strange that whenever his name is mentioned, it comes with a modifier hyping his credibility. This happens with a frequency that seems gratuitous. I suppose that could be the result of writers just habitually doing that without thinking about it, but it seems more intentional, like a publicist is employed to push it to gin up Kuo's reputation and subsequent income. It's kind of like Kanye West always promoting himself as a musical genius. It just strikes me as odd. Maybe he really is all that and a bag of chips, but I don't know.

I have never seen any statistics regarding the accuracy of his predictions. I can only go on what I can remember. As I said I remember he called the iPad 4 correct, he called the pricing on the iPhone SE correct (US$400 to US$500) but he got the iPhone 5S at US$300 wrong.

He seems to have a better track record that Digitimes or the other "analysts" that MacRumors quotes.
 
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