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Chrome optimises speed. Safari optimises efficiency. So yes. Chrome will max out your cpu and the fan will go crazy to cool it down. It also fills your RAM.
The thing I would most like in both Safari and Chrome would be a per-tab toggle (make it a little on/off switch in the menu bar of that tab) that would control whether that tab gets any CPU time for JavaScript and such. And have a setting in the options for whether tabs opened in the background get this defaulted to “on” or “off”. When researching something I will frequently go through search results, or a particularly fruitful page, and open a dozen or so interesting looking links as tabs in the background, to get to as my research progresses. Both Safari and Chrome will excitedly devote resources to those tabs long before I get to them, and then, once they do, I can’t get those resources back without closing the tab in question.

Repeat this over a handful of different things I’m researching, and now there’s 50 or so tabs, across a half dozen or so windows, that the browser is trying to keep fully active, and is slowing down my system to do so. But I don’t want that, I want all those tabs open, and grouped the way I’ve grouped them, and the windows arranged the way I’ve arranged them, but with the tabs sleeping until I get to them. The browser should serve my needs, not those of dozens of websites. Give me control over whether a given page is active - including the ability to shut off processing for a page if I wish - and give me a setting for whether to open new links “awake” or “asleep”. (It would also make sense to have an exception list, for pages/domains that one always wants to start in “awake” state - e.g. a Gmail user likely wants any page under “mail.google.com” to start up upon opening and remain active. And the toggle switch I speak of could be handled like the other optional buttons at the top of each browser window - the back button and such - that can be shown / hidden / rearranged at the user’s whim; it could be left hidden by default, and power users could set it to display.)

One thing that’s helpful in this regard, that Chrome has but Safari doesn’t, is a “Task Manager” window, that shows all open pages (grouped by the process running them) which can be sorted by their percent of CPU load. If Chrome spins up my fans, I can bring up its Task Manager window, sort by CPU, and if one or two processes are particularly bad, I can decide if I want to close the related tabs (possibly saving off their URLs first). Safari doesn’t even have this - if the browser starts spinning up the fans, I am left to guess which of those 50 tabs, across half a dozen windows, is the bad actor. This is infuriating.

But neither browser will let me put tabs to sleep, short of closing them. This puts me in the position of having to remember and/or record state information (before I close tabs that I want to come back to) in order to keep the browser from becoming overburdened - it’s supposed to be the other way around - the browser should be helping me remember details so that I don’t become overburdened with them. This is a substantial failing, and it could be adequately (if not ideally) addressed by giving me a toggle switch on each tab to control whether or not that tab is getting any CPU time - I don’t care how cool your page effects are, if I’m not going to get around to looking at your page until tomorrow, I don’t need all your JavaScript running today.
 
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It’s totally unnecessary in most cases to have many tabs open at the same time. I’ve seen many people having like 100 tabs open. You never need to use all of them at the same time.
How good of you to issue an edict on how others should organize their thoughts and work. However, since you haven’t become emperor yet, we will feel free to ignore your edict, since it doesn’t fit with how many of us work.

I frequently have to go back and forth between multiple projects, as new information comes up in each one. Each of those projects likely involves multiple lines of research. Each of those lines of research will result in me opening a handful of pages that look like they might yield useful information. Given this, I can easily end up with 100 tabs open at once.

No, I don’t “need to use all of them at the same time”.
Yes, I could close down all of the other tabs that I’m not working with at the moment.

But it would be an enormous inconvenience and would waste large amounts of my time on context switching (constantly opening and closing large numbers of tabs as I move between projects, where now I can simply click on a different window). Computers are supposed to remember things for us, not the other way around.

Perhaps your work is simple enough that you can easily get by with only a few tabs open at once. Please don’t get in the way of those of us who have more complicated work to do.
 
Unless you are a dedicated Google user, there is no need to use this spyware. Brave browser is just like Chrome without the Google data-collection code injected into it. Its also open source.

Firefox is the way to go, or Safari is a better option.

Just out of curiosity: Does Safari really work silent with the same amount of windows, tabs and extensions? I‘m asking because I recently found out that Quicktime only draws like 3 % of CPU usage with h.264 1080p mp4 files while VLC uses at least 15-25 % on the same machine so I found some new hope in Apple‘s software engineering.

Yes. I am embarrased to say how many tabs I have open, but lets just say they are over 100. My MBP is as silent as my iphone. I am surprised when I launch another browser and hear fans. Safari's main caveat for the average user is lack of plugins, also propriety software if you rather trust FOSS.
 
I'm in the process of trying other browsers (still) in effort to "ungoogle" myself. The browser debate will go on endlessly but one thing is for sure, Chrome is not the ideal. Personally, I really dislike their heavy-handed changes that attempt to change perception or behavior. Such as Chrome removing the full URL from the omnibox. This may seem trivial but it disturbs me that Google/Youtube has such influence on what not only is being seen but how the world perceives the web.

I think that I'll stick to Safari and to a lesser extent chromium Edge (hush, I know).
 
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Good feature... you just know Firefox will follow..

But i don' t use that many tabs.. Guess it's not for me then
 
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Is Google claiming they are the first to implement this?

They induce that indirectly when they write:
Through our own usage and early user research, we've found that some people like to group their Chrome tabs by topic. For instance, it helps if you're working on several projects, or looking through multiple shopping and review sites.

Sure they know that's a very cool Vivaldi's feature and now they also want to adopt it.
Nothing against that but about trying to convey the idea that they discovered this through their user research.
I know it's marketing but ok!
 
They induce that indirectly when they write:


Sure they know that's a very cool Vivaldi's feature and now they also want to adopt it.
Nothing against that but about trying to convey the idea that they discovered this through their user research.
I know it's marketing but ok!
I don't read anything more into this than the fact Google researched wether or not implementing this feature is worthwhile. The fact that another browser has said feature doesn't automatically mean it's a popular one or a large enough chunk of Chrome users are looking for the same thing.
 
How good of you to issue an edict on how others should organize their thoughts and work. However, since you haven’t become emperor yet, we will feel free to ignore your edict, since it doesn’t fit with how many of us work.

I frequently have to go back and forth between multiple projects, as new information comes up in each one. Each of those projects likely involves multiple lines of research. Each of those lines of research will result in me opening a handful of pages that look like they might yield useful information. Given this, I can easily end up with 100 tabs open at once.

No, I don’t “need to use all of them at the same time”.
Yes, I could close down all of the other tabs that I’m not working with at the moment.

But it would be an enormous inconvenience and would waste large amounts of my time on context switching (constantly opening and closing large numbers of tabs as I move between projects, where now I can simply click on a different window). Computers are supposed to remember things for us, not the other way around.

Perhaps your work is simple enough that you can easily get by with only a few tabs open at once. Please don’t get in the way of those of us who have more complicated work to do.
Great point. I'm the same way.

For example:

  • I was going through a Udemy Python course. Had tab for video, and several tabs open for Python documentation and examples related to the topic for each chapter of the course. I also had Visual Studio code open to write short programs that used features related to the chapter topic.
  • I had tabs open for Hazel, Python, Bash , and Apple Photos API to write scripts that would allow Hazel to check if an image was already in my library before trying to add it. Otherwise, Haze gets stuck as Photos won't automatically allow duplicate images.
  • I had tabs open for yet another program I'm writing with again documentation, code examples , stackoverflow solutions, Reddit programming groups, and more related to the program I was writing.
  • Right now I'm learning to automate LetsEncyrpt certificate renewal for a few sites that I run. I've gotten sick of doing it manually. I'm getting ready to do a few searches and open a lot of tabs around that subject.

If would be nice to switch between these groups of tabs as some of the projects are done over several days. Heck months depending on my bandwidth.


All that said, it's August and the Tab groups feature isn't out yet. So I'll look at some of the alternatives.
 
It's September - from one tab geek to a bunch of others (based on this thread), does anyone use a Tab Manager?

Chrome and FF make my 2015 MBPr run hot! I use FF to watch tv shows sometimes and after a week or so it will lock the entire machine up tight.
 
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