Not that Panos is always right, he did insist on putting a rug on what could have been a great laptop, but in this he's right... for now - in a couple of years maybe not.
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Upcoming USB 3.2 Specification Will Double Data Rates Using Existing Cables
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Not that Panos is always right, he did insist on putting a rug on what could have been a great laptop, but in this he's right... for now - in a couple of years maybe not.
I'm afraid I don't remember the numbers anymore (if there even were numbers attached to the general statement), but I think it was at John Gruber's live Talkshow at WWDC that Craig Federighi pointed out that while Thunderbolt was an external version of PCIe, it has noticeably larger latency than internal PCIe (in the same discussion, he also explained that OS X/macOS so far never had been designed to deal well with a disappearing graphic card (which is an issue since TB in itself supports hotplugging), which is part of the reason why external graphic cards using TB had their issues until now).
Since Apple is now offering a box with an external graphic card to developers, macOS has obviously gained safeguards and support for it. I think in this discussion Federighi also mentioned that TB3 has noticeably improved latency. Regardless, TB still had lower latency than USB even before TB3.
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Hardware update...
However, it should be possible to make a TB3 to USB 3.2 dongle! Or a TB3 dock that has USB 3.2 ports.
I'm still using my 2011 MBP, go imagine... That shiny new Surface Book will be in the trash much sooner, with slow, obsolete ports (and that Alcantara that will look and smell like s.)
Courage. Took 9 years for Apple to replace the 30 pins connector. Before 2021 (4 years) Apple will introduce it's new one.
You got that right. Do they even realize that we'd all happily trade a thinner iPhone for a product with 100% more battery capacity, a high throughput, high power USB-C connector and even a phone that didn't need a protective case for every day use?
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Given its USB 2.0 data rate, lightning was never a good standard it was barely even fair at initial release. JMO.
It's unfortunate Apple has yet to learn the lesson of FireWire & 30 pin to start up a newer Lighting proprietary? It seems the U-part of USB is evolving, while Apple stays... well, Apple. A mish-mash of dongles for various iPhones, iPads & MacBooks.
No phone maker is proposing a great phone with large battery and rough and good looking. Well maybe the Keyone is advertising it's battery life and I applause them for that.
I went back to an iPhone SE for battery life. Had a Note 5 and all perfect aspect of that phone was demolished by poor battery life and bulky case. In a few years, phones will be paper thin and sport a 30 min battery life.
I agree that the lightening connector is a better design than USB-C. Considering lightening is one solid piece of plastic with pins around it versus an oblong metal tube that has metal on its outside and pins on the inside. From the feel of it, the USB-C connector is more fragile than lightening. Though I will not be testing this theory any time soon lol.
10Gb networks usually get between 800-900MBps. There is network protocol overhead there though, which usually accounts for much of the 100-200MBps discrepancy. So, a 20Gb interface would equal roughly 2GB.
Not entirely true. The cables are a total **** show. There are active & passive cables and not any one single cable for all use cases. It's mind numbingly stupid to have 3 different types of cables with the exact same ends on them. Everyone involved in this should be put in a catapult and launched into outer space.
When the iPad Pro 12.9 shipped in 2015 it supported USB 3 transfer speeds over Lightning with the proper adapter.
Why does TB has high license fee?
No one will license at a high price. The interface is extremely rare. If they lower it millions and millions of people will use it.
That's just the thing...there isn't just one cable. There are at least 4 that I can tell. For example, the USB-C cable that came with my 2017 MacBook Pro only supports USB 2.0 speeds. It's basically a power cable. Then there are USB-C 3.1 cables, USB-C Thunderbolt 3 active cables, and USB-C Thunderbolt 3 passive cables. All 4 cables have the same ****ing ends on them.
It gets better. Not any one of those cables can cover every use case.
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so now I'm anticipating Apple doing away with Thunderbolt for iphone 9 so we can utilize usb-c as the standard (finally).
Money.
Intel invested LOTS of money to develop TB. Now they need to get that money back because they are a for-profit company not a tech charity.
Let's say there are two options:
1. Give away TB for free so everyone can have a better life. But at the same time. Intel loses millions, and has to compete with all other hardware vendors in selling their in-house invented hardware.
2. Collect royalties for every piece of TB hardware sold. People who really need TB can still have it, for a price. Intel is confident that TB is the most advanced technology and people will demand it. The more popular it gets, the more Intel profits. and they are not wrong, there are plenty of people who will pay the high fees to get TB.
Well, Apple's magic new port is obsolete before it actually became useful. USB 3.x = Thunderbolt 1/2/3 all over again.
In the meantime, there's no useful ports on Apple computers.
In the meantime, there's no useful ports on Apple computers.
Surprised by USB 2.0 speed?
The only way of using USB 3.0 on iPad Pro today is the SD card reader.