UPDATE: iPhone 6s(+) use NVMe for flash storage, get up to 1800 MB/sec read speeds now

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  1. soupcan, Sep 28, 2015
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    Yes, the desktop-class NVMe standard for solid-state storage has found its way into the iPhones. Although Apple never mentions it anywhere for their iPhones, we do have a 1.8-2x improvement on read/write speeds. Apple mentioned their A9X had a "desktop-class" memory controller for the iPad Pro but never said the A9 for the iPhones also had that memory controller.

    We're looking at speeds of 402 MB/sec on 256KB sequential reads and 163 MB/sec on 256KB sequential writes. For comparison, the 6 and 6+ managed 253/86 for read/write, while the Galaxy S6 got 209/41 for the same read/write tasks. The iPhone 6/6+ already beat those, now the 6s/6s+ demolishes them and probably everything that comes out for the next 2 years.

    Article source from Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9662/iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-preliminary-results

    Man, the A9 gets better and better every single day.

    UPDATE TIME BOYS. It looks like the more storage you get, the better your speeds will be. The 128GB iPhone 6S(+) reportedly did 1800+MB/s on the read speeds. That's MacBook Pro level of speeds.

    More source: http://www.thessdreview.com/daily-n...ller-and-speed-dictated-by-device-capacity/2/

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  2. KPOM macrumors G5

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    This is simply incredible. On top of that, Apple didn't even mention it in the keynote. I've read rumors that they developed this for the iPad Pro (where it makes more sense), and then backported it to the iPhone. Either way, contrast this with how Samsung droned on and on about how great UFS 2.0 was.
     
  3. Truefan31 macrumors 68040

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    Yeah on and on I read people hyping up the s6 internals, its ufs and how bleeding edge it all was. Now all I hear are crickets lol.

    These benchmarks are really impressive and honestly I don't really care too much about them. Obviously Apple didn't either. The single core scores are pretty incredible, blowing away the competition. And even more of a gap is the gpu performance. These iPhones are being benchmarked compared to a surface pro 3 lol. It's literally the most powerful flagship out it seems and it's not close.

    Oh but iPhones are low-mid tier devices. Lol smh
     
  4. MaciMac100 macrumors 6502

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    Are they using TLC or MLC? Anybody knows?

    Edit: Seems like some kind of hybrid
     
  5. bkends35 macrumors 6502a

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    "The iPhone is overpriced because it doesn't have 8 cores"

    -every android fanboy

    Android OEMs don't even develop their own internals.. they don't have r&d costs for stuff like that. Not to mention, it's not like the 8 core cpu costs any more significant amount to produce.
     
  6. Speedman100 macrumors 6502

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    There are tons of amazing things Apple doesn't even mention. 2 GB of RAM, 2x faster read/write, more water resistant. What else am I missing?
     
  7. Skyhawk21 macrumors regular

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    Truly the hardware does fly, lower clock speeds and less cores compared to android devices, and yet geek bench results usually out do android new tech in phones and tablets. Run 3dmark ice storm unlimited bench and compare your scores to the note 5 and Galaxy s6. I bet the A9 beats them and sips battery doing it while android and lollipop and its total connection time bug on all android makes and models eats away battery in standby with screen off and while using phone.

    That's why I became a fan of Apple, they use large batteries or were, and they know how to optimize IOS and apps to sip the battery not guzzle it down in 3-4 hours of SOT only.

    My mini 4 benched and compared to a note 4 at home with newer snapdragon 4 core cpu and gpu and my geek bench singLe cpu score beat it, the multi cpu score was a little less, memory score beat it. My 3dmark ice storm unlimited was on par or bested the note 4 and my safari sun spider benchmark was flying compared to note 4 with chrome.

    On top of that note 4 battery with lollipop does not Last long, on this tablet 10-12 hours with an 8" calibrated screen that's IPS and not OLED. Of course apps are nicer and smoother.

    Our only new problem as Apple customers is IOS9 and all the kinks needing to be worked out.

    Wish they had a tablet with the A9 that's not the Pro and huge coming out.

    Personally though instead of a device thin as paper, I want big battery in it like my Air 1 or the even older iPad model that had what, a 10,xxx mah battery in it?!
     
  8. soupcan thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Holy ****. That's some serious speeds right there.
     
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    The first-gen iPad had a 6600 mAh battery. It's the iPad 4 that had the biggest battery: 11,560 mAh.
     
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    LOL what
     
  11. CNeufeld macrumors 6502a

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    I think the point was that even though the memory was upgraded in the 6s(+), Apple didn't mention that in the launch event.

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  12. MICHAELSD macrumors 68040

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    Wow, there's one argument for the 64gb/128gb models. As if we needed one. Surprised there's a speed disparity.
     
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    Generally, higher capacity flash chips have a higher read/write speed. The difference in speed is most noticeable with lower capacities, and the more storage you get, the lesser the speed increases.
     
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    Speed noone needs or will ever notice. It will stay only on paper.
     
  15. Merkie macrumors 68020

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    What makes you say this?
     
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    For my user experience there is no difference between a fast and lag-free iPhone 6 and a fast and a lag-free iPhone 6s.
     
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    16 is MLC, 64/128 are TLC

    can tell from slow writes, same was the case with my 16 mini4 I ended up returning since I got a great deal on a 64 air2.

    64 air2 does like a few hundred MB/s on average writes.

    Again, it's that TLC. confirmed at least on my jailbroken 8.4 tablet with iokit and some cmd prompts :)
     
  18. redheeler, Oct 6, 2015
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    I tried the app mentioned in the article on my own 6s+ 64 GB. That sequential read speed is incredible, faster than the PCIe SSD in my Retina iMac :eek:
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    As if suffering with a lack of storage wasn't enough, now it's confirmed to be slower storage as well, and not by a small amount. Really feeling sorry for those who trust Apple enough to get the 16 GB iPhone.
     
  19. redman042 macrumors 68020

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    My experience using the 6S+ for a week bears this out. It flies through every task. Web browsing even complex websites is now as responsive as using a Core I5 desktop. Also I edited 4K video in iMovie and the phone didn't even stutter, and rendering was speedy.

    Blows my mind how smoothly this phone responds even when pushed hard.
     
  20. Truefan31 macrumors 68040

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    Yeah it's really impressive when the efficiency of iOS gets power like the a9. Apple really outdid expectations imo. Feels like this phone will be strong for years.
     

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