UPDATED: 2 week old MacBook dead -- what now?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by pad07, Sep 27, 2007.

  1. pad07 macrumors regular

    Jul 29, 2007
    I was in the middle of something when the MacBook just switched off.


    It won't turn on again. I've had it two weeks.

    I've tried removing the battery and power adapter, etc etc all the steps on Apple's site.

    Please tell me I haven't lost EVERYTHING i.e. all my files, my 3000 songs and 5000 pictures and all my work. Please tell me that... :(:(:(:(
  2. overcast macrumors 6502a

    Jun 27, 2007
    Rochester, NY
    Guess you're thinking about future backup solutions huh?

    Chances are there is nothing wrong with the hard disk. So relax.
  3. lozanoj83 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 5, 2006
    Southern California
    Take it to an Apple Store, and they'll see what they can do

    This is why you need backups! and why leopard will be awesome when it gets here because it will do it so seemlessly....
    but really, go to an apple store and see what they can do. If you have had it for less than two weeks, they'll most likely just exhange on the spot, and if you dont want a refurb, just ask them for an exchange.. or ask the manager...
  4. andy.barron macrumors 6502

    Nov 30, 2006
    Bedford, England
    Sounds like a power supply problem, your data should be sound, take the hd out & connect to another mac. I would seriously doubt you have lost your data:)

    The tec guys may have steps to get round the power...
  5. pad07 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 29, 2007
    Is there any way to check if the HD is alive?

    I connected the MB to my iMac with a FireWire cable and nothing happened...

    When I press the power button on the MB the light to the right of the iSight camera flashes green... is that any indication?
  6. hayduke macrumors 65816


    Mar 8, 2005
    is a state of mind.
    There are a few possibilities. It might be a problem with your logic board, in which case the drive is *probably* fine, but the computer is hosed. If the drive, however, was making crazy noises before it died then the drive and your data might be toast.

    In any case, if you are not knowledgeable enough to proceed on your own then I would consider getting your machine into a store (Apple Store or otherwise.) My best guess is that your drive is okay, but it is still at risk of being screwed up if you aren't careful.
  7. andy.barron macrumors 6502

    Nov 30, 2006
    Bedford, England
    If the power supply has gone then you will have no joy this route as the HD gets its power from this also.

    If you are unsure of the removal of the hd & reconnection, I would take the previous advice & get down to your Apple store. They should sort it for you.

    Don't panic:D
  8. pad07 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 29, 2007
    Thanks for the kind and prompt replies. I feel slightly better - I am now only very devastated. :(

    Will go straight to an Apple store first thing tomorrow with it.

    Do you think if I stamp around enough they will give me a free iPod? :D

    In all seriousness, the HD did not make any noises before the computer turned off suddenly. And the magsafe's green light still glows when plugged in.
  9. pad07 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 29, 2007
    One quick question - when I go to the Apple store, is it okay to JUST bring the notebook or need I bring all its packaging and leads?
  10. odagled macrumors member

    Aug 10, 2007
  11. emac82 macrumors 6502

    Feb 17, 2007
    NB, Canada
    If it is only a few weeks old, bring all your packaging and adapters and stuff. That way if they go to replace it you can return all your original stuff and they can exchange you with all new stuff.
  12. alljunks macrumors regular

    Apr 8, 2007
  13. chelsel macrumors 6502

    May 24, 2007

    I don't know why everyone says wait for Leopard, it has Time Machine... just use SuperDuper: http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html

    It exists now and is cheap... I have an automated backup run at 3am every day to external storage. I'll probably turn off Time Machine if it's a hog like Windows System Restore.

  14. majordude macrumors 68020


    Apr 28, 2007
    How does SD compare to Carbon Copy Cloner?
  15. DaLurker macrumors 6502

    Mar 30, 2006
    I don't know if this is still the case, but CCC doesn't have "smart" backups, so everytime you clone your drive, it clones everything which can take quite a while.

    SuperDuper on the other hand has something called smart backups and it will only update the necessary files. It cuts my backup time by 75% (30 minutes vs 2 hours).

    Also if you use a firewire drive it is bootable. Copying back to a new hard drive is also really easy.

    Highly recommended.
  16. TheStu macrumors 65816

    Aug 20, 2006
    Carlisle, PA
    SuperDuper may do the same thing as TimeMachine, but where TimeMachine shines is in its ease of use, and the set-it and forget-it aspect of it. It runs smoothly, and I don't really notice it in the background on my Leopard Beta (though, i guess technically I shouldn't be talking about it... but you know what, Steve Jobs announced Time Machine, so its not like I am giving anything away)
  17. pad07 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 29, 2007

    Wow. That was utter hell.

    So I rang Apple and they, like you guys, said 'Go to your nearest Apple store'. My nearest Apple store is an hour's train journey away, but alas I did it.

    I arrive at 4.00. I sign up for the 'Experts' but am told I must wait till 7.15pm for assistance. I do so.

    At 7.00 I return to the Apple store. I am not seen till 8pm. At 8pm, the man I see tells me:

    - The MacBook is toast
    - The HDD is not.
    - It cannot be replaced in store and must be reordered online. He says I am eligible for a brand new machine, not just a refurb. He sorts it out online and gives me a reference number, then tells me to ring the Apple store online tomorrow. Basically I could have done all of this from home without paying quite a bit for a train journey and wasting a lot of time in my day.

    I come home.

    I am upset about this. Not only am I having to wait for a new machine, but I wasn't shown much sympathy at the fact that I have work on the machine that now cannot be accessed and may have to be redone.

    Is there any way I can get something out of this? I'd quite like to get a new iPod, do you think if I ring up and ask for only 1GB of RAM instead of 2GB they will let me use the difference to buy a new iPod? Or perhaps could I ask for the new system to be shipped when Leopard is out, with it bundled? I could wait a few weeks if it'll save me the cost of Leopard.

    I feel like complaining but I doubt I'd be listened to. Apple told me on the phone to go to the store, which I did, but when I got there, after a 4 hour wait, I was simply told I would have to get a new system and send back the old one.

    :( :( :(

    Any advice?
  18. ClassicBean macrumors 6502a

    Jun 20, 2004
    That sucks man. I don't know why they didn't just replace it right there and then.

    I brought back my iMac a few weeks ago because of three stuck or dead pixels.

    I had it three weeks and wasn't expecting a new one. All I wanted was for the genius to remove the screen and try to massage the pixels back to life. When I asked him to do that, he asked me how long I had the computer for. I told him just over three weeks and pulled out the receipt. He asked me if I had a backup of my stuff at home. I told him most of it.

    He said, "Is it cool if I just swap it? Give you a brand new machine?"


    "It's just I'm really busy today and to take it to the back is too time consuming."


    They removed my 3rd party RAM in the back and replaced it in the new unit.

    You should have received the same treatment considering your machine was only two weeks old.
  19. pad07 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 29, 2007
    Sounds like you were lucky :( I'm happy you got a good service.

    Can anyone offer advice for what I should say on the phone tomorrow? regarding changing my replacement so it ships when and with Leopard when it comes or downgrading the RAM to 1GB (from 2GB) to get an iPod?

    Do Apple offer any compensation as an apology for poor service like I have received, that has resulted in my own financial and time loss?
  20. jeejeebu macrumors regular

    Jun 25, 2007
    As far as I can tell, no. Ever since the iPhone came out, I can't get anything close to decent service from Apple.
  21. emac82 macrumors 6502

    Feb 17, 2007
    NB, Canada
    What does the iPhone have to do with it?
  22. jeejeebu macrumors regular

    Jun 25, 2007
    What the genius at the genius bar told me is that since the iPhone came out, they are too swamped to do anything right or in a reasonable amount of time.
  23. Martin C macrumors 6502a

    Martin C

    Nov 5, 2006
    New York City
    I wouldn't be complaining. Your hard drive is fine and you are getting a brand new MacBook.
  24. majordude macrumors 68020


    Apr 28, 2007

    When your car breaks down do you expect a free tire or something for your troubles? :rolleyes:
  25. theman macrumors 6502a

    Jul 26, 2007
    you couldn't have gotten them to take out your HDD for you? or get them to help you transfer your files? hmmm.... never been to an apple store before...

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