Updated Eve Room With New Aluminum Design, E-Ink Screen, and HomeKit Support Available for Pre-Order

[DeepIn2U]

Yes, it tries to. This behavior is on by default, and has no setting. And yes, I have tested it, and nobody has ever triggered my phone, and I haven't been able to trigger other people's phones, and my wife hasn't ever noticed a problem either. You shouldn't be so brazen in calling me out if you don't have accurate information. Just saying. You should read the machine learning journals that Apple posts and MacRumors comments about from time to time. Your example in anecdotal, but the actual truth is here:

https://machinelearning.apple.com/2017/10/01/hey-siri.html

Well I’m calling you out - as you’ve also assumed 1) the wording of the documentation and 2) that I haven’t already read it.

Key: “To reduce the annoyance of false triggers,” this again does NOT prevent only minimizes occurrences and, as I’ve rated I’ve already proven i. An trigger hey Siri on my exes iPhone 8 same model as my own. I didn’t listen to how she configured it as I gave that model to her and she took t home to migrate all her data.

I set my iPhone 8 about 14 days later as a new setup.

The part you may. It be focusing on is the timing affect during the second pass for Hey Siri setup. I mentioned accents - sorry if that may have attended you, not my intention. Yet in the way people say Hey Siri trigger phrase and the pause between the words and other nuances - for the test I’ve done worked several times.

My research isn’t what’s in a document online but real world reeearch in actually doing. When I have the chance I’ll tey it more and right beside the person with the iPhone on a coffee table in front of us in a decently quite room. As you an tell another person agrees it’s me this is repeatable.

Ps: I don’t own a HomePod yet so that wouldn’t come into affect.

 

[walstib]

I haven’t had good performance with the Eve products I already own, so I’ll wait to see how this latest gizmo works before I buy anything else they make.

 

[DeepIn2U]

For my husband and I, our HomePod responds to either of us saying "Hey, Siri", but our own iPhones & iPads only respond to one of us, whoever set it up. His will NOT make up when I say HS, and mine do NOT wake up when he says it. It's especially noticeable in the car with CarPlay when my phones controlling it, and he says HS to play a song, and his phone responds and plays and the CarPlay ignores him because it's my phone.

Have you tested this both on lightning connection and without ... again same distance from one another and yourselves? Worked for me and even at an interview today.

Test: saying the HS trigger the same way the other has recorded it (pauses included and tonal rise/fall on the vowels and consonants). If I get a chance to test again this week I'll video record it.
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I read the article, then read the Eve page, and still have no idea what parameters "air quality" measures. There's a reference to "volatile organic compounds", which is equally meaningless. Do they mean paint thinner, flatulence, stale beer or what?

Great questions: very important as well.

CO2 vs O2 vs H2O (Humidity) I'm presuming,
is Carbon Monoxide also measured, and what is determined as non-safe?
what particulates are measured?

Would be helpful to use this in conjunction to a Dyson HEPA device to see when the HEPA needs replacing; comparing the Dyson filter to something measuring separately.

 

[BeardMan7]

Don’t have an Apple Watch? Easy to change scenes with your watch always on you. If you’re in bed the phone is nearby or if you are using an appletv Siri on that works with HomeKit

Yes, I have an Appe Watch, but I decided to buy products that doesn't even work with HomeKit also. Only some of my products work with Siri, but all of them work with Alexa (Echo Dot in every room), so that explains why I ask Alexa and not Siri.
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I read the article, then read the Eve page, and still have no idea what parameters "air quality" measures. There's a reference to "volatile organic compounds", which is equally meaningless. Do they mean paint thinner, flatulence, stale beer or what?

It measures every single fart (no joke), smell from paint or perfume...nearly everything

 

[Mike Oxard]

Depending on the accuracy of this, a handful of these scattered about may be a cheap way to quickly monitor several areas of our machining & composites shop with overlapping environmental req's. Handy.

If you don't need live data, TinyTag environmental dataloggers are very reliable and robust enough for a manufacturing environment.
https://www.geminidataloggers.com/

They also make wireless systems that cost a bit more.

 

[x-evil-x]

Yes, I have an Appe Watch, but I decided to buy products that doesn't even work with HomeKit also. Only some of my products work with Siri, but all of them work with Alexa (Echo Dot in every room), so that explains why I ask Alexa and not Siri.
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It measures every single fart (no joke), smell from paint or perfume...nearly everything

ahh. I have an Alexa and google home(built into my nest cam). The Alexa is the worst thing ever. so slow and doesnt work half the time. Homekit is always instant. Google works best with random questions.

 

[Aston441]

I've been waiting for Netatmo to support HomeKit. I want to buy their full weather station and all accessories. I've emailed them a few times over the years but they can never tell me anything. With HomeKit only needing encrypted software authentication now, I don't understand what the holdup is for all of these companies. It has been a year—it's like they don't want our money!

Honestly the only reason I buy HomeKit is so I can control things with my voice using Siri. Hopefully the new Siri updates in iOS 12 enable companies to more easily integrate Siri for controlling things without needing HomeKit. I don't mind using another service to automate things. I just want everything to be able to communicate.

HomeKit is niche. The real money is in Alexa integration.

 

[macduke]

Well I’m calling you out - as you’ve also assumed 1) the wording of the documentation and 2) that I haven’t already read it.

Key: “To reduce the annoyance of false triggers,” this again does NOT prevent only minimizes occurrences and, as I’ve rated I’ve already proven i. An trigger hey Siri on my exes iPhone 8 same model as my own. I didn’t listen to how she configured it as I gave that model to her and she took t home to migrate all her data.

I set my iPhone 8 about 14 days later as a new setup.

The part you may. It be focusing on is the timing affect during the second pass for Hey Siri setup. I mentioned accents - sorry if that may have attended you, not my intention. Yet in the way people say Hey Siri trigger phrase and the pause between the words and other nuances - for the test I’ve done worked several times.

My research isn’t what’s in a document online but real world reeearch in actually doing. When I have the chance I’ll tey it more and right beside the person with the iPhone on a coffee table in front of us in a decently quite room. As you an tell another person agrees it’s me this is repeatable.

Ps: I don’t own a HomePod yet so that wouldn’t come into affect.

You asked for documentation saying that they match the "Hey Siri" trigger word against the speech when you set up your device (in which you say "Hey Siri" repeatedly. This is the very reason you have to go through such a setup process. I provided said documentation. I'm not sure why this is obvious to nearly everyone except you. I would say it's fairly common knowledge on MacRumors. You are clearly an outlier, and as I said, it "tries" to. It's not perfect. No technology is perfect. But it does do what I said it does, therefore I am correct. Next topic, please.

 

[ignatius345]

Not entirely clear on the purpose of this device. I run a good HEPA air purifier at home, and it does a nice job of sensing air quality and ramping up its air flow if it senses particulates. Fry an egg or open the window on a day with bad air and the thing will go nuts until the air gets filtered. And I think it set me back about $225.

Maybe I'm missing something, but what's the point of a standalone air quality meter for $100 that can't actually do anything about it?

 

[DeepIn2U]

You asked for documentation saying that they match the "Hey Siri" trigger word against the speech when you set up your device (in which you say "Hey Siri" repeatedly. This is the very reason you have to go through such a setup process. I provided said documentation. I'm not sure why this is obvious to nearly everyone except you. I would say it's fairly common knowledge on MacRumors. You are clearly an outlier, and as I said, it "tries" to. It's not perfect. No technology is perfect. But it does do what I said it does, therefore I am correct. Next topic, please.

Go back and read my original post. It specifically says that going through the Hey Siri setup for a trigger does not prevent someone else invoking this. I asked for documentation that Apple provides saying they’ve eliminated this.

The documentation you’ve provided specifically states “reduces” or “minimizes” the chance of someone else doing this.

How is the wording and definition of those words not obvious to you that it does not equal - eliminate? You haven’t proved the documentation does that. I’ve in practice defeated it without any tools any intervention physically on the device. You’re not correct as you just admitted above. Just cause you couldn’t duplicate what I’ve been able to successfully doesn’t make you 100%.