Updated Mac Mini Still Coming With M2 and M2 Pro Chips

I do not think it makes sense to bring the next generation chip on the least powerful mac meanwhile the more PRO stuff will be on the older M1 Ultras ...?
 
boak said:
It doesn't make sense for Apple to keep production of the M1 just for the iPad Air when the MBA, Mac mini and iMac transition to M2 soon. Just my guess though.
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With respect, sure it does. TSMC is happy to continue to make older SoCs on older processes at prices well below what they are charging for the latest processes. I mean Apple was still sourcing A10X until recently for the original AppleTV 4K and they are still buying S3 SoCs for the Apple Watch 3.
 
MacBH928 said:
I do not think it makes sense to bring the next generation chip on the least powerful mac meanwhile the more PRO stuff will be on the older M1 Ultras ...?
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Considering an M1 Ultra will obliterate an M2 on everything but a synthetic single-core benchmark...

And you can be sure that Apple will make sure everyone knows that when they do introduce M2. ;)

John Ternus: "And that is M2, our newest and most efficient Apple silicon chip. And it joins our M1 Pro, M1 Max and M1 Ultra chips, which together provide the most extreme performance available for our customer's most demanding needs in our most-capable Macs."
 
CWallace said:
Considering an M1 Ultra will obliterate an M2 on everything but a synthetic single-core benchmark...

And you can be sure that John Ternus will make sure everyone knows that when he does introduce M2. ;)
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I remember an Intel dealer seminar where they were releasing the specs on their new chips, and someone raised their hand. Apparently the new chip was slower and less capable than the previous generation. The reason was laughable, and the urging to sell it anyway fell tone deaf. Yikes. The consensus was Intel is insane doing that, and *surprise* it didn't sell well. Weird...
 
CWallace said:
With respect, sure it does. TSMC is happy to continue to make older SoCs on older processes at prices well below what they are charging for the latest processes. I mean Apple was still sourcing A10X until recently for the original AppleTV 4K and they are still buying S3 SoCs for the Apple Watch 3.
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That's true too. The M1 must have sold bucket loads and the R&D costs would have been well paid off by the time the M2 is released.
 
MacBH928 said:
I do not think it makes sense to bring the next generation chip on the least powerful mac meanwhile the more PRO stuff will be on the older M1 Ultras ...?
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It actually makes sense. Usually, consumer-level programs/apps would leverage more on single-core performance whereas pro programs/apps are optimised for parallelisation on multiple cores.

It's also not without precedent. The iPad Air 4 got the A14 while the iPad Pro was still on the A12Z.
 
I’d definitely get this rather than that studio monstrosity

Always loved the look and form of the mini , my fault to get a fusion drive …
 
I wish they could have announced these along with the Mac Studio. I'm sure there are plenty of people who bough the entry level Studio that likely would have been totally fine with one of these and would have liked to save that money. I'm still holding onto my aging 27" iMac until they release this.
 
I honestly think the higher end Mac Mini coming this year will be an M1 Pro, not an M2 or M2 Pro. They will simply complete the lineup of what's missing, without jumping to the next Mx generation.
 
As a game developer 16GB is not enough for my workloads, and swapping to disk would suck for running debug build with development assets . Was really hoping to see a Mini with M1 Pro as 32GB is enough for my use cases.

Maybe a mini refresh at WWDC? I don't mind them not putting the M1 Max in the Mini, as long as I can have more RAM.
 
lowkey said:
Doesn’t seem right they’d release an M2 Pro in a Mac Mini. It will outperform the M1 Pro Max in the Mac Studio at a lower price.

I’d love it if they did. But Apple usually encourages upselling. Not downselling.
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Not, really. The M1 Max is faster than the M1 Pro in anything involving GPU. An M2 Pro would be a little faster than an M1 Pro but not dramatically faster. The M1 series is based on the A14 cores. The M2 is presumed to be based on the A15 cores which are about 10-12% faster than the A14 cores.

An M2 Pro Mini would bridge the price gap between the M1/M2 Mini and the M1 Max Studio.
 
boak said:
Do you think the M1 Pro is a sufficiently high volume chip? It's only used in the MBP.
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The MBP is one of the highest volume Mac product lines, probably only exceded by the Air. The M1 Pro is likely the best seller on the MBP as it gives most of the performance of the M1 Max without the expensive Max GPU that is only useful for specialized applications.
 
SpacemanSpiffed said:
As a game developer 16GB is not enough for my workloads, and swapping to disk would suck for running debug build with development assets . Was really hoping to see a Mini with M1 Pro as 32GB is enough for my use cases.

Maybe a mini refresh at WWDC? I don't mind them not putting the M1 Max in the Mini, as long as I can have more RAM.
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Mac Studio is for you.
Too expensive you say? Well, somebody's got to pay that premium, to make that Studio line worth Apple's while.
 
SpacemanSpiffed said:
As a game developer 16GB is not enough for my workloads, and swapping to disk would suck for running debug build with development assets . Was really hoping to see a Mini with M1 Pro as 32GB is enough for my use cases.

Maybe a mini refresh at WWDC? I don't mind them not putting the M1 Max in the Mini, as long as I can have more RAM.
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M1 Mac mini with hypothethical 32/512 would cost $1499. An M1 Pro version would be at least $1699, not much cheaper than the base Mac Studio.
 
boak said:
M1 Mac mini with hypothethical 32/512 would cost $1499. An M1 Pro version would be at least $1699, not much cheaper than the base Mac Studio.
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Perhaps not much cheaper, but hopefully the M2 Pro Mini will much smaller than the Studio monstrosity, which was designed for the ridiculous Ultra and is way overkill for a Max. And hopefully it will be battery powered like a MacBook, and fanless.
 
HowardEv said:
Perhaps not much cheaper, but hopefully the M2 Pro Mini will much smaller than the Studio monstrosity, which was designed for the ridiculous Ultra and is way overkill for a Max. And hopefully it will be battery powered like a MacBook, and fanless.
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Since the mini is a desktop computer, I doubt that it will be battery powered.
 
HowardEv said:
Perhaps not much cheaper, but hopefully the M2 Pro Mini will much smaller than the Studio monstrosity, which was designed for the ridiculous Ultra and is way overkill for a Max. And hopefully it will be battery powered like a MacBook, and fanless.
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Dream on regarding battery power :) But I would expect any "mini" would be still be similar to the current mini form factor, and possibly fanless. If I can't hear them, fans are fine if that means a M1/M2 Pro chip isn't throttled otherwise.
 
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