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Updated to 10.5.1, now I'm getting 9 SUID warnings

I'm having the problem too. I only noticed it after upgrading to 10.5.1

Warning: SUID file "usr/libexec/load_hdi" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiskManagement.framework/Versions/A/Resources/DiskManagementTool" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/Resources/Locum" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Versions/A/Resources/runner" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Admin.framework/Versions/A/Resources/readconfig" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Admin.framework/Versions/A/Resources/writeconfig" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "usr/libexec/authopen" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/Resources/OwnerGroupTool" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" has been modified and will not be repaired.

These sound like serious errors. Afraid.
 
brownbird said:
I'm having the problem too. I only noticed it after upgrading to 10.5.1

These sound like serious errors. Afraid.
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Try reading the article referenced above by treblah.

Originally Posted by treblah
Seriously, 'Repair Permissions' Is Voodoo.
 
lugesm said:
Please explain. Why is this a useful thing to do?
What are the consequences of NOT running this Repair Permissions?

I am new to the Mac; I upgraded to 10.5.1; everything looked fine. I didn't even know I had a "Repair Permissions" problem.

What are the observable symptoms of the problem?

Thanks for your help.
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don't believe this cult :D

you do permissions repair only, if a specific problem arises and the fix is to repair the permissions.

but no harm will come if you try, if it makes you feel better :D
 
Ok. Some observations. I updated to 10.5.2 with Software Update and got the long list of SUID warnings. Normally I use combo updates so I downloaded the 109 MB version of 10.5.1 and applied it to my system. Now the only SUID warning is the one for ARD Agent.
 
Mac OS X 10.5: Disk Utility's Repair Disk Permissions reports a permissions issue with ARDAgent

Issue or symptom

The following message may appear in the Disk Utility log window when repairing disk permissions.

Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent has been modified and will not be repaired.

Products affected

  • Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard

Solution

You can safely ignore this message. It is accurate, but not a cause for concern.
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http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306925
 
iGrouch said:
Ok. Some observations. I updated to 10.5.2 with Software Update and got the long list of SUID warnings. Normally I use combo updates so I downloaded the 109 MB version of 10.5.1 and applied it to my system. Now the only SUID warning is the one for ARD Agent.
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there is no 10.5.2 yet :confused:
 
Not to keep up the discussion of Permissions Repair, but I get the ARDAgent one (only warning), but then a list like this:

Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Sites".
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" has been modified and will not be repaired.
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Desktop".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Documents".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Downloads".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Application Support".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Assistants".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Audio/MIDI Drivers".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Digidesign".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Audio/Sounds/Alerts".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Audio/Sounds/Banks".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Audio/Sounds".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Audio".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/ColorPickers".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Compositions".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Favorites".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/FontCollections".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Fonts".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/iMovie/Plug-ins".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/iMovie/Sound Effects".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/iMovie".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Input Methods".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Internet Plug-Ins".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Keyboard Layouts".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Preferences".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Printers".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Screen Savers".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Sounds".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Voices".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Movies".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Music".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Pictures".
ACL found but not expected on "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Public".

Permissions repair complete


What the heck are these ACL things? New MB user of less than a month from switching. :)
 
ACL - access control list

this is an extended permissions on a file in addition to the regular rwx for owner, group & other (world) ...

this is a very broad topic and i suggest reading some admin books or unix internals for more info

i would not be concerned about that at all. oh yeah, stop running the silly repair permissions just for the heck of it!
 
rhoydotp said:
ACL - access control list

this is an extended permissions on a file in addition to the regular rwx for owner, group & other (world) ...

this is a very broad topic and i suggest reading some admin books or unix internals for more info

i would not be concerned about that at all. oh yeah, stop running the silly repair permissions just for the heck of it!
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As I said, I was a recent switcher. So I just repaired the permissions after installing 10.5.1, to see if I had the issues that others were talking about here. Thanks, rhoydotp, for the heads up! :)
 
Seriously it fixes it

If you run the 10.5.1 upgrade twice you only get the ardagent one. Ive tested it twice. Dont know why it works but it does.
 
SUID warnings (what do they mean?)

I just repaired permissions and I got these warnings. What do they mean?
 

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So I take it there is nothing of concern?

p.s. your Turkish Rambo is so awesome.
 
Yeah, don't worry about the SUID stuff. The ACL stuff can be corrected with some command line voodoo if you want to do that.

I believe the command is:

Code: 
chmod -0 file/directory/here

Thanks I thought it looked a lot like a Halo 3 match (and I'm not the youtube user, just linking to it >.>).
 
Re: Updated to 10.5.1....

If it's any consolation, I, too, just got the update and am getting the same exact warnings. I'd imagine it's normal.
 
NAG said:
SUID is short for System User ID

Basically, it is due to the 10.5 upgrade changing how the system deals with permissions.
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hahaha! it already said in the page that SUID means "set uid"! what it does is that when an app is run, it will run with the effective rights of the suid even if it is ran by a regular user.

this got nothing to do with an upgrade, this is a UNIX thing from a ver very long time ago
 
BigTRQ said:
Not to keep up the discussion of Permissions Repair, but I get the ARDAgent one (only warning), but then a list like this:

Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”
[snip]
Permissions repair complete


What the heck are these ACL things? New MB user of less than a month from switching. :)
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I get these same errors. This is a 'fresh' install of Leopard with 10.5.1 on it. Not an upgrade from Tiger.
 
rhoydotp said:
hahaha! it already said in the page that SUID means "set uid"! what it does is that when an app is run, it will run with the effective rights of the suid even if it is ran by a regular user.

this got nothing to do with an upgrade, this is a UNIX thing from a ver very long time ago
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Hah, this has something to do with the upgrade because 10.5 is now handling permissions differently including better integration of ACLs. Yes, this is all old stuff, I never said the actual technology was new. I said how the mac os is handling this stuff is new. Now if you get off your high horse you might contribute to this discussion instead of trying to win it.
 
The reason Disk Utility in 10.5 now alerts for SUID problems is a fix for MODB #15 from last year. It was a very serious bug that meant any application could gain SUID privileges by overwriting an existing SUID binary and then running 'repair permissions' which would blindly change the SUID flag back to what it expected it to be.

Now Disk Utility checks that the binary is the same as it expects before it changes its SUID flag, this is much more sensible.

The reason you get these errors after 10.5.1 is, I would suggest, because 10.5.1 is not updating the receipts for these files correctly. Just ignore it, I'm sure it'll get fixed in due course.
 
NAG said:
Hah, this has something to do with the upgrade because 10.5 is now handling permissions differently including better integration of ACLs. Yes, this is all old stuff, I never said the actual technology was new. I said how the mac os is handling this stuff is new. Now if you get off your high horse you might contribute to this discussion instead of trying to win it.
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ooopss! i pissed off a demi-god who is apparently is not so much. all i'm saying is don't give people some half-baked info you being demi-god and all. HAH!

you are the one sitting on a high horse and does not want to be corrected! now back to work you ... :mad:
 
rhoydotp said:
ooopss! i pissed off a demi-god who is apparently is not so much. all i'm saying is don't give people some half-baked info you being demi-god and all. HAH!

you are the one sitting on a high horse and does not want to be corrected! now back to work you ... :mad:
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I'm seriously wondering what universe you're in. Someone asked a question as to what SUID meant. I provided a link with my explanation (since people aren't likely to go run out and buy a UNIX book just to satisfy passing curiosity). I then provided a simplistic explanation of what is going on since apparently your technically perfect explanation wasn't good enough for the poster to understand what SUID means for them. Seriously, if that hurt your feels I'm sorry.
 
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