Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Updates Available - irritating, no "details" option

smithrh

smithrh

macrumors 68030
Original poster
Feb 28, 2009
2,835
1,974
As I write this, I'm being nagged by a notification in Mavericks that's different from before:

"Updates Available: Do you want to install the updates now or try tonight?"

The options available are: "Install" and "Later." "Later" turns out to only have 3 options: "Try in an hour" "Try Tonight" and "Remind Me Tomorrow."

As someone who's been in computing (personal and professional) for a very long time, this bugs me.

What the heck happened to the "Details" button? I don't install *anything* *ever* without knowing what's being installed and why.

Not pleased.

I wasn't happy after my iPad 3 also had iOS 7 rammed on it without permission as well. This isn't as bad, but it's not far from it either.

It's not like the updates being offered are critical either - it's a RAW update and the new iWork suite.
 
Though you can't see it within a notification; you can still see details within the Mac App Store itself.
 
I've been meaning to make a thread about this; it annoys me too. I'd love to see a "details" option return because like you I don't want to install things without knowing what they do. While it's possible to open the App Store and look in there, it does seem like a step backwards.

Presumably you can still right-click updates in the App Store and choose to ignore them (and therefore stop the prompt) but I haven't tested this yet.
 
Yes, I look at the App Store - but this makes it a two-step process, and more importantly, I worry that Apple is:

• Conditioning people to accept updates blindly (two choice, now or later)

• Trying to pump up stats for upgrades

Both are very slippery slopes.

I especially don't want iWork apps updated right now, as I'm heavy into a campaign that relies on Pages. Having functionality change due to an upgrade could be a real problem for us.
 
I agree, a "details" button would be nice. In my case the other day, I went to the app store and it wouldn't let me click on ANY of the buttons at the top so I could move to the updates section. This was on my work Mac, I haven't investigated it further.
 
smithrh said:
Yes, I look at the App Store - but this makes it a two-step process, and more importantly, I worry that Apple is:

• Conditioning people to accept updates blindly (two choice, now or later)

• Trying to pump up stats for upgrades

Both are very slippery slopes.

I especially don't want iWork apps updated right now, as I'm heavy into a campaign that relies on Pages. Having functionality change due to an upgrade could be a real problem for us.
Click to expand...

Not only these reasons.. But I hadn't updated iTunes on my MBP yet.. (hasn't been in wifi range, or when it has.. I wasn't using it)
So I have the MBP on today.. playing iTunes Radio.

iTunes updates WHILE i'm playing music.. shutdown iTunes without warning and updates. Took me a second to figure out why iTunes just crashed.. :mad:
 
TheBacklash said:
Not only these reasons.. But I hadn't updated iTunes on my MBP yet.. (hasn't been in wifi range, or when it has.. I wasn't using it)
So I have the MBP on today.. playing iTunes Radio.

iTunes updates WHILE i'm playing music.. shutdown iTunes without warning and updates. Took me a second to figure out why iTunes just crashed.. :mad:
Click to expand...

You can prevent that from happening. In System Prefs, find the App Store panel Adjust to your liking. You should have also been prompted to set this up either on your first boot of Mavericks or the first time you opened the MAS after updating to Mavericks.
 
smithrh said:
As I write this, I'm being nagged by a notification in Mavericks that's different from before:

"Updates Available: Do you want to install the updates now or try tonight?"

The options available are: "Install" and "Later." "Later" turns out to only have 3 options: "Try in an hour" "Try Tonight" and "Remind Me Tomorrow."

As someone who's been in computing (personal and professional) for a very long time, this bugs me.

What the heck happened to the "Details" button? I don't install *anything* *ever* without knowing what's being installed and why.

Not pleased.

I wasn't happy after my iPad 3 also had iOS 7 rammed on it without permission as well. This isn't as bad, but it's not far from it either.

It's not like the updates being offered are critical either - it's a RAW update and the new iWork suite.
Click to expand...

I agree. Sometimes I wonder how things like this make it through the design process.

But, then again, I know several people on Mountain Lion who never install the updates, let alone check the details of them.
 
hallux said:
You can prevent that from happening. In System Prefs, find the App Store panel Adjust to your liking. You should have also been prompted to set this up either on your first boot of Mavericks or the first time you opened the MAS after updating to Mavericks.
Click to expand...

Yeah I did have it set to auto update, but it's the point that it updated *while* I was using that app. IMO that should never happen.

No warning or anything, just closes iTunes while playing a song.
I've turned all auto updates off for now hoping that this is just a bug/error and should not have happened.
PinPoint updates for example always gives me a popup saying I need to quit the app before it can be updated.. iTunes just updated anyway.
 
I'm also going to turn off updates via the App Store sys preferences pane.

I'm here (MacRumors) enough to learn of important updates pretty quickly without being pestered by notifications repeatedly.

While this is a viable workaround, I don't consider it a fix.

If these notifications are working as designed, the the design needs to be changed.
 
smithrh said:
...and starts installing the updates, at least one time in my experience.
Click to expand...

I just got an update notification and clicking the bubble itself, not the buttons, did not automatically download the update. It worked exactly as the old "Details" button did. It's interesting that it didn't for you.

If this works reliably then I'm happy, but it's concerning that it still auto-installed on your system.
 
Well, I turned off all of the automatic updating App Store preferences for the time being so it's not bothering me.

Since we have a fairly imminent 10.9.1 update coming, when that comes out I'll re-enable the updates and have my screen recording app at the ready, I want to capture what happens.

Apple bug reports now can have multimedia files and other attachments easily included so I'm itching to try that too!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back