MP 1,1-5,1 Updating mp5,1 components for Catalina: recommendations?

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by Robert71hh, Jun 10, 2019.

  1. Robert71hh macrumors newbie

    Robert71hh

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    hey folks,

    I still love my 12core 2.93GHZ mp5,1 and use it for both running macOS and testing enterprise software (e.g. SAS) on Redhat. I love my bootable gtx780 with its CUDA Support so I can progress AI, machine learning and deep learning with SAS. It also works really well for crunching my RAW full frame .dng photos.

    As I understand it, Catalina won’t have drivers for my old 2012 airport express and Bluetooth cards. Any other components expected to become obsolete soon?
    I’m looking for recommendations to update these cards to be as up to date as possible for Catalina.

    So my question is a request for recommendations as to
    1) the most advanced current upgrade options for my MacPro5,1 as well as
    2) speculation about what options will become available when the mp7,1 arrives (since she will now be reintroducing PCI support on the macOS platform).

    To be clear, I’m only interested in options that will/should be natively supported by macOS Catalina without hacking my own kexts...
     
  2. tsialex macrumors 601

    tsialex

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    We don’t even know if will be possible to run Catalina with MP5,1. Maybe won’t even be possible or will be possible with serious caveats.

    Don’t make plans involving Catalina before we have more betas released.
     
  3. julobulo macrumors newbie

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  4. MisterAndrew macrumors 65816

    MisterAndrew

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    There’s no guarantee the 5,1 will continue to work with Catalina. These old Macs aren’t like classic cars. They are disposable electronics that are getting closer to the trash bin every day. Support has been deprecated leaving gaping security holes and Apple has offered us a viable path forward.
     
  5. stupots macrumors newbie

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    For those of us 5,1 owners that simply cannot afford the new Mac Pro, which is $6000 for what is likely a lower spec than many of us already have (that price only includes 256GB SSD storage o_O), this thread is worth monitoring. As @tsialex implies, it's early days, but there is some hope.

    Stu
     
  6. haralds macrumors 6502a

    haralds

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    Check out the Catalina board for entries on it o unsupported Macs.
    Currently it is not too hard to get it to work.
    You do need a metal capably AMD card and ideally an upgraded WiFi board.
    Apple could make it harder on future releases.
     
  7. MisterAndrew macrumors 65816

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    That may be, but there are a lot of Macs that are supported besides the newest MP. I don’t think it makes sense to pour more money into an unsupported Mac with the hope of it being able to run Catalina. I think that money would be better spent on a supported Mac.
     
  8. ssgbryan macrumors 6502a

    ssgbryan

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    Or simply a better computer - OSX isn't head and shoulders above Windows anymore.
     
  9. MVMNT macrumors member

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    Will it not work with a Metal capable Nvidia card?
     
  10. developer13245 macrumors 6502

    developer13245

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    Mr. "Mac Pro 7,1 (soon)"
    Re:
    "I updated my signature before the keynote on Monday when no one knew when it was going to be released or anything else about it."

    Assuming you will have something "soon" when "no one knew when it was going to be released or anything else about it"...

    Is quite delusional. Do you believe Santa Clause visits you in the summer?
     
  11. ssgbryan macrumors 6502a

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    Apple won't sign Nvidia cards for Mojave, so Nvidia are irrelevant.


    Which is still ridiculous on Apple's part
     
  12. JeffPerrin macrumors 6502

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    Apparently, it's Nvidia who won't let Apple "write to the metal" or whatever you call it.

    Just a guess, but I suspect Apple is buttoning-down the OS in preperation for ARM...
     
  13. MisterAndrew macrumors 65816

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    What’s delusional is someone attempting to define “soon” as a specific length of time. Moreover, your childish personal attacks may result in you being banned from the forum.
     
  14. MVMNT macrumors member

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    Not even with an EFI Mac edition GTX 680? Eep.
     
  15. tsialex macrumors 601

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    Kepler NVIDIA GPUs (GT 640/740, GTX 670/680/770/780 and others) are supported by Mojave Apple native NVIDIA driver.
     

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