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Mustard Chops

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Hey guys, is it worth me selling my 2.26 octo with 8GB RAM, GT120 & 4870 and upgrading to either the Hex 3.33 or the Octo 2.4?

My current machine was a replacement from apple for my 2.8 octo. I was always a little bummed out for losing the clock speed of that machine but apple were not budging from what they were offering.

I'm not sure I'll ever need more than 16Gb of RAM but would like the higher clock speed of the Hex.

It looks like a lot of people seem to think the single socket mac pro's arent worth buying but the hex seems like it would be a good fit for me on paper.

I mainly use Aperture, Photoshop and a little Final Cut...

How much do you think I coud realistically get for my current machine now?
 
If you can live with the lower maximum memory limit then it sounds like it'd be a better fit to you. The 2.26 Octo Mac Pro was underpowered in my opinion, the 2.8GHz Mac Pro from 2008 was faster on the whole and cheaper. The only thing the 2.26GHz Octo could win in was seriously well multithreaded code that could utilise Hyperthreading. It was an embarrassment that Apple went with the 2.26 instead of the 2.4 or 2.66GHz stock speeds in the Octo.
 
That's what I was thinking Spanky, I did try and push for a faster clock speed on the replacement but they were not budging.

Any ideas on resale value? I saw a 2.8 octo with 2gb ram and stock video card go for £1400 yesterday on ebay.
 
Hi Mustard Chops,

I was wondering about the same thing myself...

Did you find out anything about the resale values and stuff? I use Aperture and photoshop as well, (freelance photographer) so it could be a good idea, although I can't say that the 2.26 eight core machine is slow by any means.. Not from my experience anyway. So, I'm kinda thorn to be honest. I mean would it really be worth the time and effort to sell and replace (a one year old machine)? .. Also, I was thinking of what I heard about the up coming CS6 which will be able to utilize all available cores apparently (I've no idea how true that is, considering it's adobe we're talking about, and I don't think they're very fond of our choice of platform at the moment plus I read it on here somewhere, so I think this particular information should be taken with a pinch of salt), and the fact that I'd lose four RAM slots..

Anywyas, it's an interesting thing to be thinking about, so let me know if you managed to find out more, or you could maybe post some thoughts on the six core machine if you went ahead with replacing the eight core.

Thanks for the attention, and have a nice day.
 
Hey guys, is it worth me selling my 2.26 octo with 8GB RAM, GT120 & 4870 and upgrading to either the Hex 3.33 or the Octo 2.4?

My current machine was a replacement from apple for my 2.8 octo. I was always a little bummed out for losing the clock speed of that machine but apple were not budging from what they were offering.

I'm not sure I'll ever need more than 16Gb of RAM but would like the higher clock speed of the Hex.

It looks like a lot of people seem to think the single socket mac pro's arent worth buying but the hex seems like it would be a good fit for me on paper.

I mainly use Aperture, Photoshop and a little Final Cut...

How much do you think I coud realistically get for my current machine now?

Are you actually noticing any slow down with your current workflow?

Or do you just have the upgrade bug? :)
 
Personally I think it would be a waste of money to upgrade right now. Just buy a SSD for your boot drive and hold out for another year.
 
Personally I think it would be a waste of money to upgrade right now. Just buy a SSD for your boot drive and hold out for another year.

An SSD is definitely a big upgrade. But chances are nothing new will be out in a year. Will probably have to wait til Q4 2011 or early 2012. My guess is 2012 considering it took so long for Apple to put hexa-cores in the MP.
 
Thanks for the suggestions so far guys!

I'll be honest in so far as I was always thinking of cashing in this Mac Pro when an update appeared.

As far as I can tell none of the apps that I use really take advantage of many cores and feel that a higher clock would benefit me. Even 2 instances of handbrake only use 70% of the CPU. I did render out a 65 image slideshow from aperture in 1080p and it seemed to take an age...

When the updates were initially announced I figured that I'd just grab a 5870 and maybe an SSD and leave it at that.

I'm just thinking of maximising the resale now whilst the machine is not that old...
 
Thanks for the suggestions so far guys!

I'll be honest in so far as I was always thinking of cashing in this Mac Pro when an update appeared.

As far as I can tell none of the apps that I use really take advantage of many cores and feel that a higher clock would benefit me. Even 2 instances of handbrake only use 70% of the CPU. I did render out a 65 image slideshow from aperture in 1080p and it seemed to take an age...

When the updates were initially announced I figured that I'd just grab a 5870 and maybe an SSD and leave it at that.

I'm just thinking of maximising the resale now whilst the machine is not that old...


You just want latest and the greatest ;) Well if you can fetch a decent price for it, go for the hex :)
 
Have you considered a processor upgrade or other options? Mine was a Nehalem 2.26 GHz octo refurb when I purchased it. But now it scores higher on Geekbench, BlenderRender, xBench and Cinebench than any other real 2009 Mac Pro and that's with Nehalem 3.2 GHz Xeons (the 3.3 's hadn't been released then). For about $3200 (i.e., $300 less than a Westmere 2.4 GHz Octo) and less than an hour of your time, you can slap in two Intel Xeon W5590 Nehalem-EP 3.33GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Server Processors BX80602W5590 ( http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...-33GHz-6-4GT-s-1366pin-8MB-CPU-w-o-FAN-Retail ) and have a system about 38% faster than a 2.4 Ghz Octo and 47% faster than your current system). Then just sell the two 2.26 GHz Xeons on ebay or, do as I did, and build some cheap overclocked systems with them at your leisure. Each 2.26 GHz chip system can be overclocked to about 3.0 GHz on air and at a total cost for each system of about $1k. These two 2.26 GHz systems provided me a total of about 33% more rendering power than 8-cores of 2.26 GHz. I'm glad that I made the latter decision because for the past year I have had 8 cores of 3.2 GHz and 8 cores (2*4) of 3.0 GHz for a render farm for AE, Maya, C4d and Compressor. I have just upgraded the two 2.26 GHz Xeon quads to two non-Xeon 3.33 GHz 6 cores and overclocked each of them to 4.05 and 4.1 GHz with TurboBoost active on both. Now each self-built system is faster than an octo 2.93 GHz system (See pics for 4.05 system when it was oc'ed to 4.03 - of the xBench tested systems - scoring 534.55 - only my Mac Pro is the faster real 2009 Mac Pro). By the way, the ATi 4890 really comes into its own on the self-built systems. The total cost of each self-built system, including CPU upgrade, was about $2.1K; but perks, such as SSD's, can drive the price up. Otherwise, I suggest you consider waiting for a refurb base 12-core (which I expect to be in the $4.0K - $4.4K price range and later upgrade the processors yourself when the price falls a little bit and software evolves and then place the old, slower 6 cores in self-built systems and overclock them) if you plan to become a serious video editor because Final Cut Pro and other pro apps that handle motion graphics will probably use all of the cores and GHz you can throw at them. That way you can sell your 2.26 GHz 8-core for whatever price you consider satisfactory (probably $1800 - $2200 minimum, depending on original purchase date and condition) to offset the upgrade to a very competitively priced and somewhat future proof refurb 2010 dual hexacore Mac Pro. Moral - Assess your current and future needs, use your head and hands, do the math and don't take a jump until you're sure where you'll land.

I know you are another member have done this before. Could you please kindly share how hard it is in reality to properly replace the 2xXeons in the 2009 MP. Is there video/guided steps for this? I am quite interested. Thanks much!
 
Upgrade to the 6-core 3.33GHz is a fine choice. Will definitely be faster. The 8-core 2.4GHz isn't a good upgrade. The latter won't be any better.
 
I suggest that you wait for several months before purchasing any replacement CPU's because there may be better upgrade opportunities; however, the process, itself, is easy. It takes me less than 15 minutes from start to finish on an octo system and about 10 minutes on a quad system.



There's no video. Read these five threads very closely:
1) https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/713934/ , 2) https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/738826/ , 3) https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/781908/ , 4) https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/757863/ , 5) https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/762901/ , as well as Anandtech's article on Nehalem Macs and how to upgrade them: http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=3597 , as well as any other sources referenced in those threads.

Parts and supplies: 1) Of course, appropriate replacement Xeon CPU(s) - (NewEgg [I buy here out of trust, history and habit] or Ewiz [usually has lower prices]), 2) tube of Arctic Silver 5 OEM - $9.99 (NewEgg), 3) 4 inch 3 mm hex key - $ 16.96 for Husky 26 Piece SAE & Metric Hex Key Set with Torque Handlet (HomeDepot), 4) Anti-Static Wrist Strap and Coiled Cord - $9.99 (RadioShack) and 5) 2 mm thermal padding ( I got mine from a friend who owned a mac repair business at the time).

Just PM me if you have any questions.

Many thanks! I will do my readings for now. Thanks again!!
 
If I can raise the funds through resale I'm going for the Hex 3.33, with 8GB and a 5870. I'll also look to get an ssd for boot at the same time.

I had a good look at Diglloyd today and figured that this is where the smart money lies...
 
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