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bcomer

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I use my 12 core 7,1 for software development and photography (Photoshop 2020).

Is there any real advantage to upgrade from the 580x module to something like a 5700?
 

Adult80HD

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I use my 12 core 7,1 for software development and photography (Photoshop 2020).

Is there any real advantage to upgrade from the 580x module to something like a 5700?

For Photoshop/Lightroom the 5700 would be a little bit better, especially as Adobe is *finally* starting to leverage the GPU more in recent releases, but probably not a huge difference. Somewhat dependent on what screen you are using too--high dpi retina-type displays will benefit more.
 

zhpenn

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It depends on whether you are using 4K+ monitor.

I'm in a similar situation, added Radeon VII
I did not feel any different when using Lightroom with GPU Acceleration ON.
But my monitor is non-4K, Dell U3014 (30inch, 2560X1600)

But when doing video editing, it is a big difference between 580 and Radeon VII
But still, I did not edit video much, Then I sold the VII on eBay.


A few days later I upgraded my monitor to semi-4K Acer XR382CQK(38inch, Ultrawide, 3840 x 1600)
Then I found a bit delay when using Photo Mechanic go through photos (but resize the window to a smaller size will help it faster)
I guess it is because of the graphics card hard to drive the "semi-4K" (Similar situation on RMBP 2018, When using eternal lower-res Monitor will be faster, but when using internal Retina Display, Means if using Hi-DPI Screen will create delays )

Then I place an order for RX5700XT, but still, on the way, I give it a try and see how it goes.

But I still think if you do not need USBC for XDR Monitor, the aftermarket AMD RX5700XT is the best choice.
 
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flowrider

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I have a 4K LG display on my 7,1 NcMP. I pulled my 580X and upgraded to an Aorus RW 5700 XT. I replaced the GPU before I got the 4K LG, so can't comment on the difference between the two. But very happy with the 5700.

Lou
 

osin

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Which 5700XT would you guys recommend?
From what I’m seeing, there are different clock speeds, fan designs (2 or 3), price.
 

flowrider

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^^^^As I posted above I have the Gigabyte Aorus. Aorus is Gigabyte's premium line. More acceleration than their OC gaming version, and a better build quality. This is my second Aorus GPU. I had an Aorus RX 580 in my 5,1 cMP that I sold with the machine. I like Gigabyte's cooling solution and their robust build quality.

Lou
 
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zhpenn

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If you doing a lot of video editing, I suggest go for Radeon VII
5700XT is a lot better than 580x, but when doing multi export(I export one task on Premiere and the other one on Media Encoder), in this case, 5700XT becomes laggy when using chrome browsing, but VII still feel like doing a light task can using chrome like normal.
But I still think 5700XT will have better performance in a future update, coz Apple has W5700X coming
 
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osin

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For those that upgraded to 5700XT, how was the initial fit?

I purchased a XFX Force Radeon RX 5700 XT THICC III as B&H had it on sale. Clock was also slightly faster than Gigabyte Aorus mentioned here before - (1810 MHz Core - Boostable to 2025 MHz vs 1770 MHz Core - Boostable to 2010 MHz).

Card barely fit to the slot 3. By barely, I mean I had to force it a little, as the end of the card is slightly to long and "deforms" the fan assembly by about 1/8" No issues with running fans though. I could fit it into slot 2 but I wanted to keep the 580X in the system for now. Slot 4 was a no go.

Even though Compute Geekbench score jumped from:
- OpenCL - 40451 to 59198 (580X vs 5700XT)
- Metal - 43777 to 49608
Geekbench lists Maximum Frequency as 875 MHz for 5700XT but 1.20 GHz for 580X
Is this a glitch to is there a setting that must be turned on?

With quick and simple testing, I see some (roughly 40%) improvement in FCPX (stabilization, noise correction, export to h.264).

As for Lightroom, with both cards installed, I can only select 580X. Not sure why? (Display is not connected to 5700XT though).

I will do some more testing this weekend and decide if I should keep this card.
Any thoughts, recommendations on settings?
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zhpenn

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For those that upgraded to 5700XT, how was the initial fit?

I purchased a XFX Force Radeon RX 5700 XT THICC III as B&H had it on sale. Clock was also slightly faster than Gigabyte Aorus mentioned here before - (1810 MHz Core - Boostable to 2025 MHz vs 1770 MHz Core - Boostable to 2010 MHz).

Card barely fit to the slot 3. By barely, I mean I had to force it a little, as the end of the card is slightly to long and "deforms" the fan assembly by about 1/8" No issues with running fans though. I could fit it into slot 2 but I wanted to keep the 580X in the system for now. Slot 4 was a no go.

Even though Compute Geekbench score jumped from:
- OpenCL - 40451 to 59198 (580X vs 5700XT)
- Metal - 43777 to 49608
Geekbench lists Maximum Frequency as 875 MHz for 5700XT but 1.20 GHz for 580X
Is this a glitch to is there a setting that must be turned on?

With quick and simple testing, I see some (roughly 40%) improvement in FCPX (stabilization, noise correction, export to h.264).

As for Lightroom, with both cards installed, I can only select 580X. Not sure why? (Display is not connected to 5700XT though).

I will do some more testing this weekend and decide if I should keep this card.
Any thoughts, recommendations on settings?
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Lightroom only recognise the cards that you plug in the monitor
 

bcomer

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For those that upgraded to 5700XT, how was the initial fit?

I purchased a XFX Force Radeon RX 5700 XT THICC III as B&H had it on sale. Clock was also slightly faster than Gigabyte Aorus mentioned here before - (1810 MHz Core - Boostable to 2025 MHz vs 1770 MHz Core - Boostable to 2010 MHz).

Card barely fit to the slot 3. By barely, I mean I had to force it a little, as the end of the card is slightly to long and "deforms" the fan assembly by about 1/8" No issues with running fans though. I could fit it into slot 2 but I wanted to keep the 580X in the system for now. Slot 4 was a no go.

Even though Compute Geekbench score jumped from:
- OpenCL - 40451 to 59198 (580X vs 5700XT)
- Metal - 43777 to 49608
Geekbench lists Maximum Frequency as 875 MHz for 5700XT but 1.20 GHz for 580X
Is this a glitch to is there a setting that must be turned on?

With quick and simple testing, I see some (roughly 40%) improvement in FCPX (stabilization, noise correction, export to h.264).

As for Lightroom, with both cards installed, I can only select 580X. Not sure why? (Display is not connected to 5700XT though).

I will do some more testing this weekend and decide if I should keep this card.
Any thoughts, recommendations on settings?
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I have tried the:

MSI 5700XT Mech ($499 CDN on sale), boot screen but is very loud when ramped.
Sapphire Pulse 5700 ($459 CDN on sale), boot screen and very reasonable noise level when ramped.
Sapphire Pulse 5700XT ($549 CDN), boot screen and only slight elevation in noise when ramped.

All three cards fit into the 2019 MP just fine and the Belkin cable kit was perfect.

I think the Sapphire 5700 is the winner for best value.

The Sapphire cards have the dual BIOS switch but did not do too much testing.
The above comments were using the "performance" BIOS.
 
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MarciaFunebre

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Las time I looked on Amazon there were two different versions of the Sapphire card. One called
"Sapphire 11293-03-40G Radeon Nitro+ Rx 5700 Xt 8GB GDDR6 Dual HDMI/ Dual DP OC (UEFI) PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card"
and another one called
"Sapphire 11293-01-20G Radeon Pulse RX 5700 Xt 8GB GDDR6 HDMI/ Triple DP OC w/ Backplate (UEFI) PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card"

which one did you test and do you know what the differences are?
 

bcomer

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Las time I looked on Amazon there were two different versions of the Sapphire card. One called
"Sapphire 11293-03-40G Radeon Nitro+ Rx 5700 Xt 8GB GDDR6 Dual HDMI/ Dual DP OC (UEFI) PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card"
and another one called
"Sapphire 11293-01-20G Radeon Pulse RX 5700 Xt 8GB GDDR6 HDMI/ Triple DP OC w/ Backplate (UEFI) PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card"

which one did you test and do you know what the differences are?

I got the - Sapphire 11293-01-20G Radeon Pulse RX 5700 Xt 8GB GDDR6 HDMI/ Triple DP OC w/ Backplate (UEFI) PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card. Differences between the cards are available on their website. Basically a little more speed and a three fan design.
 
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