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You have a license for old software that can only run on old hardware. At some point that old hardware will be very difficult to replace. The new software will not.

It’s a false economy buying old hardware, spend your money instead on new software.

There are loads of modern alternatives to light room, many without subscription. Even the inbuilt MacOS Photos can do a lot of what it does at a more basic level.

"Sometimes you just have to roll the dice."

What would you have me do with the thousands of photos that I've spent hundreds of hours editing, rating, and cataloging, throw them in the garbage? I'm not editing snap shots or selfies here. There are only two options to preserving that work, use the existing software with older hardware or buy a subscription that I'll use like a gym membership.
 
According to chatGPT??? You can export your photos from light room into something like MacOS photos with the following provisos.

What you do have of course is that modern photo browsers have facial and object recognition built in, so if you’re looking for a tiger cub in India under umbrella it will pull out all photos with that description.

Photos WILL import
  • ⭐ Star ratings (as ratings)
  • 🏷 Keywords (as keywords)
  • 📅 Capture date
  • 📍 GPS data
  • 📷 EXIF/IPTC metadata
Photos will NOT import
  • Flags (Pick/Reject)
  • Color labels
  • Lightroom collections
  • Stacks
In spite of the incomplete answer ChatGPT tried to offer, moving to a new platform means that all the edits to raw files are also lost. It’s not a simple process to move to a new editing platform if you need to preserve that. The only way to preserve all those edits is to export all the raw files to a different format, like TIFF, which then loses the capability for further raw editing.
Personally I’d just pay (and do) the subscription to Lightroom rather than trying to keep ancient hardware alive.
 
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In spite of the incomplete answer ChatGPT tried to offer, moving to a new platform means that all the edits to raw files are also lost. It’s not a simple process to move to a new editing platform if you need to preserve that. The only way to preserve all those edits is to export all the raw files to a different format, like TIFF, which then loses the capability for further raw editing.
Personally I’d just pay (and do) the subscription to Lightroom rather than trying to keep ancient hardware alive.
I hear ya, and it may come to that if I get back into photography. With all other subscription prices always going up and up I would expect LR prices to do the same. I'm kinda done with subscriptions.

Forkhandles doesn't understand that we don't edit JPGs in LR. We edit RAW files that never really gets changed from the original even when it's exported from LR. Thanks for explaining that concept.
 
Some modern Adobe alternatives that are available without subscriptions:


But I call the OP’s attention to this one, based on his cataloguing concerns:

 
I’ll tell you what I don’t get.

You take a photo, you do your best, looking for good framing, good light, juxtapositions, correct focal lengths, great depth of field. You do so in RAW

You post edit the photo, maybe you change the crop, the white balance, the colour matrix. You’ve made it perfect, you export it to JPEG you print it, you’ve captured perfectly that moment in time. Fine!

THEN YOU GO AND SPEND A FORTUNE ON STORAGE FOR ALL THOSE RAW FILES THAT YOU WILL NEVER EDIT AGAIN.

That’s the bit that confuses me. And I know it’s not just you, my dad used to do it, he was so taken with the idea that he could, he never stopped to think whether he really would.

However, I think that is a luxury you have to pay for!!! If you want continual access to edit a photo you took and edited 30 years ago you will have to keep up to date with that software.

Action photography doesn't lend itself well to perfect framing, plus access limitations require cropping of almost all photos. Post processing also involves exposure adjustments, sharpening of certain areas, highlight and shadow adjustments, and some other techniques which I'm sure I've forgotten. Initially I created JPEGs, then I learned it wasn't necessary. I've never printed a photo, but have posted to Facebook and Flickr, and have been asked by each a Canadian wildlife agency and magazine for permission to use one of the photos on Flickr, not that they're exceptional but because of the subject matter. I keep all the RAW images that made it through the initially culling (of out of focus shots) because I'm a novice at editing. After several years I've gone back to some of my early work and re-culled or re-edited after learning new techniques and gaining editing experience. RAW images are stored on external drives due to their size. I work with smaller "previews" in LR.

Many of the photos will never be flickr-worthy but are saved for the memory. It's amazing how a photo can bring you back to the time and feeling you had when taking it. I'm 66 and recently retired. I won't need to maintain them long, just another decade or so. Spending $400 on a used MBP or iMac isn't much in the scheme of things.
 
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I hear you about keeping the original RAW images... but I'd like to make an argument for also uploading photos into Apple Photos. I don't often make an effort to revisit old photos, but Apple has done an outstanding job of resurfacing old photos for me and making videos automatically via AI. They aren't professionally curated videos, but pretty cool nonetheless and no effort on my part except to click a link on my phone.
 
"Sometimes you just have to roll the dice."

What would you have me do with the thousands of photos that I've spent hundreds of hours editing, rating, and cataloging, throw them in the garbage? I'm not editing snap shots or selfies here. There are only two options to preserving that work, use the existing software with older hardware or buy a subscription that I'll use like a gym membership.
According to Adobe you can still use the current version of LR Classic without a subscription (i.e., after expiration), just that the Develop and Map modules won’t work. The Library module still works, so all the catolog and previous edits are preserved, and edited photos can be exported. So if you simply want to “preserve that work” this may suffice. Of course, for additional edits you will need to do so elsewhere.
 
OK, that's what I decided to do a day or two ago. Looking for a 2015-2018 MB that doesn't have screen issues, or maybe even adding a larger screen. My 2008 MBP can't handle 16GB of RAM.
I would avoid most MBPs past 2012 for various reasons. For older hardware that can run Mojave, I would recommend a 2012 15" MacBook Pro (non retina). They have i7 quad core processors. The 2012 mac mini also have the same processor as the MBP. It will be plenty fast to run Lightroom. I use Aperture and Adobe CS6 on it and it is fine. I have 16GB RAM and a SATA SSD. You could also get a 2017 iMac but that is more restrictive with internal storage but it can accept 64GB RAM. I have Mojave installed on the iMac. I had Mojave on the 2012 MBP also in the past (I have Mavericks on it presently). The 2012 15" MBP are quad core and have faster benchmark scores than some 2016 MBP models.
 
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According to Adobe you can still use the current version of LR Classic without a subscription (i.e., after expiration), just that the Develop and Map modules won’t work. The Library module still works, so all the catolog and previous edits are preserved, and edited photos can be exported. So if you simply want to “preserve that work” this may suffice. Of course, for additional edits you will need to do so elsewhere.
yes, I am aware of this. I don't just want to preserve the data, I want the ability to edit it and any other photos that I might take in the future. thanks though.
 
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I would avoid most MBPs past 2012 for various reasons. For older hardware that can run Mojave, I would recommend a 2012 15" MacBook Pro (non retina). They have i7 quad core processors. The 2012 mac mini also have the same processor as the MBP. It will be plenty fast to run Lightroom. I use Aperture and Adobe CS6 on it and it is fine. I have 16GB RAM and a SATA SSD. You could also get a 2017 iMac but that is more restrictive with internal storage but it can accept 64GB RAM. I have Mojave installed on the iMac. I had Mojave on the 2012 MBP also in the past (I have Mavericks on it presently). The 2012 15" MBP are quad core and have faster benchmark scores than some 2016 MBP models.

Edit, I'm fairly certain a 2019 iMac cannot run Mojave because when I was looking at iMacs, my main need was for it to run Mojave. A 2018 mac mini can run Mojave though.
Thanks for all of the suggestions. After reading some of the other suggestions, I became interested in the iMac instead of a MB. Earlier today I also checked out the prices of the mac mini on FB marketplace, but they see much higher and didn't include a monitor, keyboard, or mouse. I'll try to sort through all the info when searching.
 
I would avoid most MBPs past 2012 for various reasons. For older hardware that can run Mojave, I would recommend a 2012 15" MacBook Pro (non retina). They have i7 quad core processors. The 2012 mac mini also have the same processor as the MBP. It will be plenty fast to run Lightroom. I use Aperture and Adobe CS6 on it and it is fine. I have 16GB RAM and a SATA SSD. You could also get a 2017 iMac but that is more restrictive with internal storage but it can accept 64GB RAM. I have Mojave installed on the iMac. I had Mojave on the 2012 MBP also in the past (I have Mavericks on it presently). The 2012 15" MBP are quad core and have faster benchmark scores than some 2016 MBP models.

Edit, I'm fairly certain a 2019 iMac cannot run Mojave because when I was looking at iMacs, my main need was for it to run Mojave. A 2018 mac mini can run Mojave though.
Well, yes. the iMac 2019 can run Mojave. Check eg Mactracker "Original OS: macOS 10.14.4 (18E2034)".
Love this model, because there is no T2 chip and it supports Mac OS Mojave to Sequoia without the need to use OCLP.
 
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Well, yes. the iMac 2019 can run Mojave. Check eg Mactracker "Original OS: macOS 10.14.4 (18E2034)".
Love this model, because there is no T2 chip and it supports Mac OS Mojave to Sequoia without the need to use OCLP.
Thanks, I was mistaken. Maybe it was too expensive for me when I was looking. Or it could be that I found a 2017 5k iMac for $175! 😂
 
Nice avatar, MacInTO!🙂 The 2017 iMac is a damn fine machine, too.
Thanks. Yours too! Maybe I was looking for a 2019 iMac at the time but the 2017 was a deal I couldn't refuse. I also got 32GB of RAM for $35 and now it is running 40GB of RAM. It works fine with Aperture and CS6. I find the fusion drive a bit sluggish though as apps take a moment to load. Recently I've seen 2019 iMacs with internal SSDs for about $500 - still a bit steep. I use an external drive for my data and it's fine so far but I may open it up and replace the fusion drive with a SSD and maybe even swap out the CPU.
 
Just throwing it out there, might even be worth trying to run old macOS under UTM on a new machine
 
Just throwing it out there, might even be worth trying to run old macOS under UTM on a new machine

I'm assuming this was directed at my original post. I have a new MBP, but I don't know UTM stands for and probably shouldn't know what it is even if I knew what the abbreviation means. The LR5.7 software is 32-bit and, as I understand, needs to run on a system that can run 32-bit software.
 
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I'm assuming this was directed at my original post. I have a new MBP, but I don't know UTM stands for and probably shouldn't know what it is even if I knew what the abbreviation means. The LR5.7 software is 32-bit and, as I understand, needs to run on a system that can run 32-bit software.
It's probably not worth it to buy newer, and more expensive, hardware and then dumbing it down with a layer of software to run older software. Just get older hardware that the software was designed to run on and you will save yourself time and money.
 
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Do you need the ability to continue editing this photo library or do you just want access to it?

A lesser advertised fact about Adobe's subscription apps is that they still work in a limited, read-only capacity once the subscription ends, so you can continue accessing the work you created in the app indefinitely. You could in theory install the newest version of Lightroom onto the 2025 Mac and use that to import the 5.7 library. That should preserve your ability to access your past edits and maintain your catalog's metadata. You won't be able to make any future edits without subscribing, but for simply having access to your past work that could be a viable solution, and would be much more sustainable than trying to keep 13 year old software running on a 10 year old machine.
 
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You might consider an old iMac. I just helped a friend prep her late 2013 27" iMac (16 GB RAM, 1.2 TB drive) for donation, and it has a gorgeous display. Based on eBay prices, that model is running $50-150, depending on the configuration. It only runs up to Catalina, but based on your post, something like that easily could meet your needs without spending much money at all. Of course, it has the limitations of an all-in-one machine, i.e., if one thing dies, then it is likely the whole computer dies, but it (or a slightly newer machine) may be an interesting option for photo work.
 
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I’ll tell you what I don’t get.

You take a photo, you do your best, looking for good framing, good light, juxtapositions, correct focal lengths, great depth of field. You do so in RAW

You post edit the photo, maybe you change the crop, the white balance, the colour matrix. You’ve made it perfect, you export it to JPEG you print it, you’ve captured perfectly that moment in time. Fine!

THEN YOU GO AND SPEND A FORTUNE ON STORAGE FOR ALL THOSE RAW FILES THAT YOU WILL NEVER EDIT AGAIN.

That’s the bit that confuses me. And I know it’s not just you, my dad used to do it, he was so taken with the idea that he could, he never stopped to think whether he really would.

However, I think that is a luxury you have to pay for!!! If you want continual access to edit a photo you took and edited 30 years ago you will have to keep up to date with that software.
I get that you are not a photographer. This is a hobby, it's for fun and doesn't have to have any meaning except for the person taking the photo. Prior to digital photography, which start about 30 years ago for the masses, taking photos with a film camera, there was a lot of thought and planning (composition, lighting, exposure, etc.) that went into the image because you only had one opportunity because film was expensive. With digital photography, anyone can be a photographer because they shoot hundreds of images at a time and not worry about the composition or anything else because the phone takes care of everything - except for composition. And it shows because when I see most people's photos, there is no composition. From a classic perspective, they don't take good photos, but they take it for evidence of them being somewhere, etc. I would not call these people photographers. In the 1950s, there were two photographers that took photos of everyday life, like many camera phone operators today, but they created art of daily routine. They were Vivian Maier and Fred Herzog.

For most of the classic photographers, they can tell you exactly where and when they were and what was happening at the time of that photo because of the planning involved. I still think this way when taking a photo with my phone and remember the circumstances around the photos. It think most of these photos taken with a camera phone, the operator, cannot tell you where a photo was taken last week and the circumstance around that. For action photographers they take a lot of photos that don't pan out because the subject is moving. However, sometimes a bad image at the time can be used for a specific purpose in the future. OP is a hobby photographer but it is always nice to be recognized for their photos.

For over twenty years, I've done photoshoots on request as well as sell images from my library. If someone has a request for a certain image, but they aren't sure what they want, I can provide samples images and if one fits, it usually requires reprocessing and maybe cropping. Otherwise, it has to be created which takes time and more money. I imagine AI could do some of this today.

As for the software, I've been using the same editing software, for over twenty years, Adobe Photoshop and Apple Aperture. I think I paid for Photoshop once and have never paid for Aperture because I got it through my job at the time. I use this on vintage Apple hardware, a 2012 MacBook Pro and a 2017 iMac, which cost me less than $1000 for both. Hard drive are cheap to store images, maybe it cost more than my computers, but less than my camera gear. The camera equipment is the expensive bit although, most of the photography is fine on a 15 year old SLR because I like it the most. I have newer ones that I don't use that much as well but still do occasionally.
 
Thanks for all of the suggestions. After reading some of the other suggestions, I became interested in the iMac instead of a MB. Earlier today I also checked out the prices of the mac mini on FB marketplace, but they see much higher and didn't include a monitor, keyboard, or mouse. I'll try to sort through all the info when searching.
There are pros and cons to each mac mini and iMac. Many mac minis are not expandable, and yes they require separate keyboard, mouse and monitor but they are flexible in that way also. iMac have good screens, but they are also not expandable because the hard drives are inside the case that is glued together.

I find the sweet spot with mac mini is 2012 and maybe 2014 and iMac is 2017 and 2019. The minis are simple to take apart and change storage and ram (2012 only) is your into that sort of thing. The 2012 mini can take two hard drives and the 2014 can take one hard drive and one NVMe drive. With the iMacs, it's usually a fusion drive, which is a small SSD plus a spinning hard drive. I would avoid storing any data on that drive because if it fails your data is lost. An external drive is needed for it.

There is a desire to buy newer hardware than this but it gets really restrictive. The 27" iMacs have upgradeable RAM and the 21" iMacs do not have upgradeable RAM - they do but you need to disassemble the machine completely.
 
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There are pros and cons to each mac mini and iMac. Many mac minis are not expandable, and yes they require separate keyboard, mouse and monitor but they are flexible in that way also. iMac have good screens, but they are also not expandable because the hard drives are inside the case that is glued together.

I find the sweet spot with mac mini is 2012 and maybe 2014 and iMac is 2017 and 2019. The minis are simple to take apart and change storage and ram (2012 only) is your into that sort of thing. The 2012 mini can take two hard drives and the 2014 can take one hard drive and one NVMe drive. With the iMacs, it's usually a fusion drive, which is a small SSD plus a spinning hard drive. I would avoid storing any data on that drive because if it fails your data is lost. An external drive is needed for it.

There is a desire to buy newer hardware than this but it gets really restrictive. The 2018 mac minis have soldered RAM and storage. I found it very difficult to find a reasonably priced machine with 16GB RAM because this setup is rare. The 27" iMacs have upgradeable RAM and the 21" iMacs do not have upgradeable RAM - they do but you need to disassemble the machine completely.
Thanks for this information. This is very helpful.
 
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