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I see guides to upgrade 1st gen MP with the x processor socket 771, but i dont see too much about using an e5345 processor (8 core 2.33). Can these drop in with the same ease? They are a lot cheaper than the x series of clovertowns. They are lower power. Does that matter?
 
I see guides to upgrade 1st gen MP with the x processor socket 771, but i dont see too much about using an e5345 processor (8 core 2.33). Can these drop in with the same ease? They are a lot cheaper than the x series of clovertowns. They are lower power. Does that matter?

They'll work. :D
 
They will work. There are posts on this forum somewhere from a few who have done it. "2.33GHz 8 core Mac Pro" can be sometimes seen in people's signatures. You can even overclock them and you should be able to get them up to 2.66GHz. https://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/28/overclocking-tool-for-the-mac-pro/

Some people also used a hard overclock (I believe soldering was involved) to get the cheaper 1.86GHz 1066MHz processors to run at 2.33GHz 1333MHz.
 
I read of a dude who did that overclock that Umbongo speaks of, and all that was involved was using a super tiny piece of electrical tape to cover up one specific contact on the CPU. Little too sketch for me, but apparently it'll get the job done. to answer your question, you can use any socket-771 53xx series xeon.
 
nope. it's harpertown. the original mac pros can only use woodcrest and clovertown. the 54xx are manufactured with the 45nm process. the 51xx and 53xx are manufactured with the 65nm process.
 
hey, Mr bozz2006, didnt you have a long thread on how to do this?
I am seriously considering buying a 2ghz dual mac pro for about 1100, and then adding 2 quad core E53XX series processors, and a SSD boot drive. I think I can do it all for less than $1800, and my prediction is that with the quad cores and the SSD, that it will be MUCH faster than a MP costing twice as much... any thoughts.
 
I would agree that it would be very very fast. Just how fast, or if it is faster than a new machine would probably depend on just how it is measured and how you would use it. My Mac Pro Classic is very very fast. HERE is the long thread chronicling my upgrade.

And below are three online tutorials that helped me out:

Number One

Number Two

Number Three
 
the other option i have is on a 2.66 dual core machine, that i could upgrade to a quad 2.33 but i dont know if it would be faster on geekbench
 
you'll find a deal soon enough.

edit: can you buy from the US ebay? I bet you'll find cheaper deals and your money is worth more than ours anyhow.
 
Since we're talking ~ $1800 I think it would be better to go for a 2008 2.8. The FSB is faster, this affects RAM access and also GPU system performance. Of course you won't have the fun of upgrading it but you'll have an overall faster machine. You can find a 2.8 on-line for 1800 ~ 2200 used without too much waiting I think. I see them every so often.

the other option i have is on a 2.66 dual core machine, that i could upgrade to a quad 2.33 but i dont know if it would be faster on geekbench

It won't be faster without OC'ing. You'll end up with a slower feeling machine. You can fin 3.0GHz 4 core chips on ebay for $600 a pair tho. That would be the way to go! Sometimes you have to purchase an old server blade (for ~$600) and pull the chips out of it to find these prices tho.
 
the other option i have is on a 2.66 dual core machine, that i could upgrade to a quad 2.33 but i dont know if it would be faster on geekbench

Here is the cinebench score on my 1st gen mac pro:
2.0 quad 2.33 octo
Render cpu 2184 2534
multi cpu 7457 14834
open gl 2867 2863

This is with stock GT 7300. Considering selling this one but its definately no slouch.
 
Here is the cinebench score on my 1st gen mac pro:
2.0 quad 2.33 octo
Render cpu 2184 2534
multi cpu 7457 14834
open gl 2867 2863

This is with stock GT 7300. Considering selling this one but its definately no slouch.

can you do a geekbench on it?
 
Geekbench score with 7300GT vid card
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Geekbench score with Radeon 4870 vid card (Apple version)
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These are both with the 32-bit version of Geekbench.
 
Geekbench score with 7300GT vid card
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Geekbench score with Radeon 4870 vid card (Apple version)
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These are both with the 32-bit version of Geekbench.

interesting... with that geekbench, your upgrade goes from the 5000s to the 9000s.... that IS in nehalem territory for the one processor version... very interesting...
 
You can't draw ANY serious conclusions from GeekBench scores. Well, actually you can.

Serious conclusion: Geekbench is so poorly written you can disregard any score you ever see it display on a mac. That includes at Barefeats, here ad MR, or anywhere. ;)
 
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