upgrade macpro cpu x or e xeon clover

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  1. sbb155 macrumors 6502

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    I see guides to upgrade 1st gen MP with the x processor socket 771, but i dont see too much about using an e5345 processor (8 core 2.33). Can these drop in with the same ease? They are a lot cheaper than the x series of clovertowns. They are lower power. Does that matter?
     
  2. nanofrog macrumors G4

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    They'll work. :D
     
  3. Umbongo macrumors 601

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    They will work. There are posts on this forum somewhere from a few who have done it. "2.33GHz 8 core Mac Pro" can be sometimes seen in people's signatures. You can even overclock them and you should be able to get them up to 2.66GHz. http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/28/overclocking-tool-for-the-mac-pro/

    Some people also used a hard overclock (I believe soldering was involved) to get the cheaper 1.86GHz 1066MHz processors to run at 2.33GHz 1333MHz.
     
  4. bozz2006 macrumors 68030

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    I read of a dude who did that overclock that Umbongo speaks of, and all that was involved was using a super tiny piece of electrical tape to cover up one specific contact on the CPU. Little too sketch for me, but apparently it'll get the job done. to answer your question, you can use any socket-771 53xx series xeon.
     
  5. AdvocateUK macrumors regular

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    Will the E5420 2.5Ghz Quad Core processor work?

    It runs on a 1333Mhz bus and has 12MB L2 cache. Sounds like it could be a good CPU to use if it will work.
     
  6. bozz2006 macrumors 68030

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    nope. it's harpertown. the original mac pros can only use woodcrest and clovertown. the 54xx are manufactured with the 45nm process. the 51xx and 53xx are manufactured with the 65nm process.
     
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  8. sbb155 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    hey, Mr bozz2006, didnt you have a long thread on how to do this?
    I am seriously considering buying a 2ghz dual mac pro for about 1100, and then adding 2 quad core E53XX series processors, and a SSD boot drive. I think I can do it all for less than $1800, and my prediction is that with the quad cores and the SSD, that it will be MUCH faster than a MP costing twice as much... any thoughts.
     
  9. bozz2006 macrumors 68030

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    I would agree that it would be very very fast. Just how fast, or if it is faster than a new machine would probably depend on just how it is measured and how you would use it. My Mac Pro Classic is very very fast. HERE is the long thread chronicling my upgrade.

    And below are three online tutorials that helped me out:

    Number One

    Number Two

    Number Three
     
  10. AdvocateUK macrumors regular

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    Ah well never mind.
    Those 5355's are still very expensive though, over £600 a pop at dabs.com

    :(
     
  11. bozz2006 macrumors 68030

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    ebay. I got mine for $155 apiece.
     
  12. sbb155 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    the other option i have is on a 2.66 dual core machine, that i could upgrade to a quad 2.33 but i dont know if it would be faster on geekbench
     
  13. AdvocateUK macrumors regular

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    Yeah I looked on ebay but atm there's only one up for sale in the uk...I'm a patient man though :)
     
  14. bozz2006 macrumors 68030

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    you'll find a deal soon enough.

    edit: can you buy from the US ebay? I bet you'll find cheaper deals and your money is worth more than ours anyhow.
     
  15. Tesselator macrumors 601

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    Since we're talking ~ $1800 I think it would be better to go for a 2008 2.8. The FSB is faster, this affects RAM access and also GPU system performance. Of course you won't have the fun of upgrading it but you'll have an overall faster machine. You can find a 2.8 on-line for 1800 ~ 2200 used without too much waiting I think. I see them every so often.

    It won't be faster without OC'ing. You'll end up with a slower feeling machine. You can fin 3.0GHz 4 core chips on ebay for $600 a pair tho. That would be the way to go! Sometimes you have to purchase an old server blade (for ~$600) and pull the chips out of it to find these prices tho.
     
  16. bearcatrp macrumors 68000

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    Here is the cinebench score on my 1st gen mac pro:
    2.0 quad 2.33 octo
    Render cpu 2184 2534
    multi cpu 7457 14834
    open gl 2867 2863

    This is with stock GT 7300. Considering selling this one but its definately no slouch.
     
  17. sbb155 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    can you do a geekbench on it?
     
  18. bozz2006 macrumors 68030

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    Geekbench score with 7300GT vid card
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    Geekbench score with Radeon 4870 vid card (Apple version)
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    These are both with the 32-bit version of Geekbench.
     
  19. sbb155 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    interesting... with that geekbench, your upgrade goes from the 5000s to the 9000s.... that IS in nehalem territory for the one processor version... very interesting...
     
  20. Tesselator macrumors 601

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    You can't draw ANY serious conclusions from GeekBench scores. Well, actually you can.

    Serious conclusion: Geekbench is so poorly written you can disregard any score you ever see it display on a mac. That includes at Barefeats, here ad MR, or anywhere. ;)
     
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