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Looking for to upgrade from an intel iMac to Apple Silicon.

Not sure if I should go for the iMac, mac mini, studio or pro.

Mainly for home entertainment and web/mobile coding/development.

Looking at performance around 7, 8 or 9 on a scale of 1 to 10.

What would the cost and setup be like?

What can we do to this old intel iMac from 2020?
 
Looking for to upgrade from an intel iMac to Apple Silicon.

Not sure if I should go for the iMac, mac mini, studio or pro.

Mainly for home entertainment and web/mobile coding/development.

Looking at performance around 7, 8 or 9 on a scale of 1 to 10.

What would the cost and setup be like?

What can we do to this old intel iMac from 2020?
"On a scale of 1 to 10" = what is 1 and what is 10?

The best possible CPU you might have in your 2020 iMac is the Intel Core i9 10900K. Apple M1 Max is 25% faster in Geekbench compared to the i9.

If we assume the Core i9 10900K to be 5 in performance, you need at least an M3 equivalent chip (M2 Pro, M1 Max, etc.) to reach 7-8 in multi-core. Single-core performance increase is easier to reach, you'll be at 8-9.

So, you can buy either an iMac, a Mac mini or a Mac Studio (you don't need the Mac Pro) - it depends on your personal preference. All those will be enough for you. New or used, as long as it's at least an M3 equivalent chip in performance.

On memory, the absolute minimum you'll need is 16GB for this work. 32GB is ideal.
 
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Looking for to upgrade from an intel iMac to Apple Silicon.

Not sure if I should go for the iMac, mac mini, studio or pro.

Mainly for home entertainment and web/mobile coding/development.

Looking at performance around 7, 8 or 9 on a scale of 1 to 10.

What would the cost and setup be like?

What can we do to this old intel iMac from 2020?

For Entertainmemnt a base model M1 from years ago is overkill. If you are doing web site development, I think what matters most is the size of the screen. Bigger is better. I tend to have many text windows open. The iMac is marginally large enough unless you buy a second monitor.

You have to think more about storage nd how you are going to do backups. Code that you write is valuable and you need to apply the 1, 2, 3 backup system, at least. So you might have a couple external disk drives a

The old Mac is still very useful. If you are developing inthing other than a Mac App, you want to test it on various systems with different OSes and versions. The 2020 Mac can run virtual machines and on those VMs you can have various Windows and Linux systems. So it can help a lot with testing.

I use a 2014 mac Mini to run a few servers. a couple for home automation and one to keep my NAS sync'd with a cloud service.
 
Looking for to upgrade from an intel iMac to Apple Silicon.

Not sure if I should go for the iMac, mac mini, studio or pro.

Mainly for home entertainment and web/mobile coding/development.

Looking at performance around 7, 8 or 9 on a scale of 1 to 10.

What would the cost and setup be like?

What can we do to this old intel iMac from 2020?
Well, if you have the “old 2020” 5K iMac with i9 and 16 GB Radeon Pro 5700 XT, you should be able to sell that at a very decent price as it is a great Bootcamp-capable Mac… 😁
Be aware if you do have the very-high specced 2020 iMac, the grfx performance of a basic M1 will disappoint.
The CPU will in all cases be so much faster than the old intel.

So, if with “entertainment” you mean games, I would go for the Mac mini M4 Pro.
If you do not mean games, and thus your 3D grfx requirements are not that high, I would advise a “normal” M4, either Mac mini or iMac.
If you do choose iMac: if you currently use a 27” iMac, then think about the currently offered 24”… many (like me) do see that as a downgrade.

So, all in all: do you game a lot? Mac mini M4 with decent display.
Do not game a lot? Have a 21” iMac 2020? Go for iMac M4

That was my $ 0.02
 
Looking for to upgrade from an intel iMac to Apple Silicon.

Not sure if I should go for the iMac, mac mini, studio or pro.

Mainly for home entertainment and web/mobile coding/development.

Looking at performance around 7, 8 or 9 on a scale of 1 to 10.

What would the cost and setup be like?

What can we do to this old intel iMac from 2020?
take a look at Mac mini M4 Pro and Apple Display


Personally, I wait until new Apple Display they release plus MacStudio on M5.
 
Not sure if I should go for the iMac, mac mini, studio or pro.
Well, that covers a range from $600 to $7000, of which the $600 version would probably get the job done... so it really comes down to how much you want to spend for "bragging rights". So, let's go through them:

M4 Mini - Would most likely get the job done (apart from the silly 256GB SSD for which you'll probably just need to pay the Apple upgrade tax if you're planning on installing pro apps or using VMs). Might not be night-and-day better than your 2020 iMac (depends which model) depending on the workload.

M4 iMac - Comes down to whether you like all-in-ones (I don't) and can live with a 24" screen after 27" (I'd prefer a pair of matching 27" 4ks) - display should more than match your iMac in sharpness and quality, but... 24"... and you're about to experience the pain of having what is still a top-notch display that can only be used with the outdated built-in computer...

M4 Pro Mini - Probably the best bangs-per-buck at the moment as long as you don't upgrade it to > $2000 at which point you might be better off waiting for the M4 Max Studio which is hopefully coming next year (but not certain).

M2 Max Studio - still a good & very capable system but really not attractive now with the M4 Pro mini is 2 processor generations ahead. I'd prefer the design and build over the (IMHO pointlessly small) Mini, but wouldn't buy one right now unless you got a good refurb deal. M4s have better single core speed (which is still key for many apps), a better balance between CPU and GPU and things like hardware ray tracing and significantly improved neural engines (the last two might not affect you).

M2 Ultra Studio - will still clean up on multicore CPU and GPU benchmarks but unless your workflow makes use of that level of multithreading and GPU-based processing you might see very little practical benefit. If/when a M4 Max studio appears it will probably offer far better bangs/buck - and if a M4 Ultra appears that will thrash M2 Ultra

Mac Pro - forget it: if you don't already know why you'd need it, you don't need it. It's really a M2 Ultra Studio plus internal high-ish bandwidth PCIe slots for specialist I/O, A/V and super-fast storage cards (not GPUs). Some people evidently need those slots enough to pay $7k for the base model - you don't.

Displays - you've been spoiled by the iMac 5k display, and anything other than a Studio Display is going to feel like a bit of a downgrade. The Samsung S9 5k hasn't been very well received (partly because it's list price is silly, but it's widely discounted) and there's only a couple of currently-vapourware 5k options. Don't get confused by "5k2k" displays which are ultra-wide displays with the same PPI as a 4k UHD (which isn't to say you might not like one). 5k@27"/220ppi is certainly "optimum" for MacOS but... well YMMV, but the "problems" with using 4k UHD displays on Macs are, IMHO, rather overstated, and they're actually a perfectly good compromise considering the price difference.

I'd "think different" with displays - I'm currently using a pair of Huawei Mateview 28" 4x3 format "4k+" displays which are basically like having a 4k 27" display with an extra inch and a bit of screen space grafted on the bottom. Not quite up to the same standard as my old 5k iMac but perfectly good, and I find the layout & ridiculous screen estate of more practical use. For development you can have your IDE full-screened on one display and your app and/or reference material on the other.

OK, "ooer! Huawei" and all that - plus I think they're actually discontinued now, but if I were starting over I'd definitely look at these puppies, from a less-contenious manufacturer:


What can we do to this old intel iMac from 2020?

Right now? Still a pretty capable machine. If you're not sold on the Mac Mini, I'd stick with it and wait for a M4 Max Studio (and maybe more display options) to appear.
 
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Thanks for all the advice. Just realise Mac mini doesn’t have a built in mic? Why? Occasionally I do use the dictation feature when my hands are full.
 
Thanks for all the advice. Just realise Mac mini doesn’t have a built in mic? Why? Occasionally I do use the dictation feature when my hands are full.
Same reason the Mac Pro doesn’t have a mic…. It’s too often located where a mic wouldn’t be of any use.
 
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Well, if you have the “old 2020” 5K iMac with i9 and 16 GB Radeon Pro 5700 XT, you should be able to sell that at a very decent price as it is a great Bootcamp-capable Mac… 😁
I wonder what kind of software development you are doing where an i9 with a 5K display attached is holding you back?

If nothingelse you can use the old mac as a display server. You log into the target device and then use screen sharing to bring the desktop to you. I do this all the time. For example the Respberry Pi4 in a robot has not screen of keyboard same with my 2014 vintage Mac Mini. The 2020 iMac would be excellent for this kind of thing. With 16GB RAM you could run an 8GB virtual machine and boot Windows into a little window for the few times you need Windows

It is still a very capable computer for the uses you listed.
 
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