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a sandwhich

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I have an old 15" imac g4 with osx 10.2.8. Would it be possible for me to run xcode on this thing? If not, would I have to upgrade the os? And how should I go about doing that?
 
I have an old 15" imac g4 with osx 10.2.8. Would it be possible for me to run xcode on this thing? If not, would I have to upgrade the os? And how should I go about doing that?

http://developer.apple.com/technologies/xcode.html said:
To install Xcode, you must have an Intel processor-based Mac running Mac OS X Snow Leopard.

Doubtful.

EDIT: If you upgrade all the way to Leopard, and can find an installer for Xcode 3.1 you might be able to run that according to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xcode

EDIT2: I verified that you can still download 3.1.4 from developer.apple.com, but it is a bit tricky to find.

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What is your goal? XCode is going to be slow, and you will never get some things working on it (iPhone/iPad development for one thing).
 
I verified that you can still download 3.1.4 from developer.apple.com, but it is a bit tricky to find.

I just checked, and I found Xcode 1.0, along with every Xcode version after that.

1. Login.
2. Click "Developer Tools" link in Downloads column at right.
3. Scroll to bottom of page.
4. Last item listed: Xcode 1.0. Requires OS 10.3.

As I recall, Xcode 1.0 was pretty bad. I wouldn't bother with it. Get the highest Xcode version that runs on the highest OS version the G4 can handle. I have a 500 MHz dual G4 that I fire up occasionally for compatibility testing. It runs OS 10.4.11 fine, and has Xcode 2.4.1 on it.


I agree with larkost: What is your goal? Without knowing that, the above is only of archaeological interest.
 
At least find a Tiger install disc. You can run a version of XCode on Tiger that is able to generate Universal binaries. If all you want to do is write Mac apps, that should be sufficient (though the 10.5 version is much easier to work with).
 
In the 10.2 era it was called Project Builder. I'd suggest upgrading the Mac to 10.4 or 10.5 (depending on the specs) and install the appropriate version of the XCode.
 
I would recommend upgrading the machine itself. Because it is a G4 processor you won't be able to run Snow Leopard. The latest version requires Snow Leopard. If you do decide just to upgrade the operating system Leopard would be slow and Xcode would be unusable. f you don't have enough money to purchase a new Intel Mac I would recommend getting one on eBay.
Thanks for asking,
Blake
 
People are ridiculous when they start saying you need the latest and greatest Mac to run Xcode. I mean for ANYTHING really? If I want to print a "Hello World" do I really need a 12 core Mac...seriously? The thing that annoys me is that it looks like they eliminated the archive of all of the previous Xcode versions (WTF?!) Honestly I just want an older PowerPC version for gcc and the GNU make so I can use Fink to compile a few generally "light" but critical apps. I mean C'mon. If anyone has the latest Tiger compatible version of Xcode they wouldn't mind sharing PLEASE contact me.
 
I mean C'mon. If anyone has the latest Tiger compatible version of Xcode they wouldn't mind sharing PLEASE contact me.

It's on the Apple website. Where it has always been.

Oh and you absolutely do need an Intel mac to do iPhone / iPad development which is why people were recommending a 'modern' mac and trying to find out the users motivation.
 
People are ridiculous when they start saying you need the latest and greatest Mac to run Xcode. I mean for ANYTHING really? If I want to print a "Hello World" do I really need a 12 core Mac...seriously?
No. See my post #4 above.

The thing that annoys me is that it looks like they eliminated the archive of all of the previous Xcode versions (WTF?!)
Where did you look? Be specific.

When I log into Apple Developer Connection using a free developer account, I see a list on the right that says "Downloads" and has a bunch of links. Click "Developer Tools". It should take you to a page that has every version of Xcode ever released, all the way back to Xcode 1.0 (which is crap compared to the Project Builder of similar vintage, but is nonetheless available).

See my post #4 above.
 
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...Where did you look? Be specific.

When I log into Apple Developer Connection using a free developer account, I see a list on the right that says "Downloads" and has a bunch of links. Click "Developer Tools". It should take you to a page that has every version of Xcode ever released, all the way back to Xcode 1.0 (which is crap compared to the Project Builder of similar vintage, but is nonetheless available).

I also have a free account and when I log in I haven't seen anything yet that's as generic as "Downloads." I see specific links to the "Mac Dev Center" / "iOS Dev Center"... Wait

I just searched for "Downloads" and noticed there's an ADC link. On a lark I investigated that and it looks like the "Apple Developer Connection" site is now pretty much obsolete except the archive and the newer "Dev Center" site is the permanent face of Apple Development support online (it's been a while since I've been in here). Anyway, I'll definitely have to bookmark that link since it's not really straight forward to get to it. Hopefully Apple won't completely eradicate the page at some point without notice.
 
I just searched for "Downloads" and noticed there's an ADC link. On a lark I investigated that and it looks like the "Apple Developer Connection" site is now pretty much obsolete except the archive and the newer "Dev Center" site is the permanent face of Apple Development support online (it's been a while since I've been in here). Anyway, I'll definitely have to bookmark that link since it's not really straight forward to get to it. Hopefully Apple won't completely eradicate the page at some point without notice.

The https://connect.apple.com/ link is under the "Additional Downloads" heading at the bottom of:
https://developer.apple.com/devcenter/mac/index.action

The top level of tools, docs, etc. are targeted to current platforms: Snow Leopard, App Store, iOS, Xcode 4, etc. Everything else, including all the archives, is at "Additional Downloads". I would hardly say that putting them one level distant from the current tools is in any way making them obsolete or subject to eradication.
 
I just checked, and I found Xcode 1.0, along with every Xcode version after that.

1. Login.
2. Click "Developer Tools" link in Downloads column at right.
3. Scroll to bottom of page.
4. Last item listed: Xcode 1.0. Requires OS 10.3.

As I recall, Xcode 1.0 was pretty bad. I wouldn't bother with it. Get the highest Xcode version that runs on the highest OS version the G4 can handle. I have a 500 MHz dual G4 that I fire up occasionally for compatibility testing. It runs OS 10.4.11 fine, and has Xcode 2.4.1 on it.

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