Urgent question about Verizon ESN

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by AndrewR23, Jun 30, 2015.

  1. AndrewR23 macrumors 68040

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    Few questions. Please help if you know the answers bc google doesnt and neither do Verizon employees.


    1. If A verizon iPhone 6 (ONLY 6) were to get blacklisted or bad ESN, would it still work on AT&T?

    -I read about an agreement between all 4 carriers sharing blacklist database in 2012 but reports and evidence in 2013 with the 5S show that to be untrue.

    2. If I were to get a whitelisted Verizon iPhone 6, then get it replaced at apple, THEN the seller reports it stolen or lost, will the new 6 with a new serial number and IMEI get blacklisted?

    -I read reports saying as of 2013 that they do not carry. For example if you were to get a bad ESN verizon iPhone replaced at apple, the new one would be whitelisted.

    Does anyone know? Please help and thank you.
     
  2. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    The problem with all that is that even if people have had some anecdotal stories--as in seen this or that happen or experienced it--it doesn't necessarily mean that that's how it always works or is supposed to work.

    It sounds like you are doing your due diligence as far as finding out details about a phone you are trying to buy, but you won't be able to escape all risk. That said, the risk of all these things, while it exists, is generally not a high one by any means. Most likely none of that will happen, and you'll be fine, but there's still a chance something like that might.
     
  3. AndrewR23 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Yeah I bought an iPhone 6 Verizon off ebay. The seller has stayed in very good contact with me, even sent me his ID picture lol. But I am worried he could report it lost/stolen eventually.

    So If I were to replace it at Apple before he could *Possibly* report it stolen, the IMEI/serial number changes and it won't get a bad ESN/blacklist.
     
  4. AndrewR23 thread starter macrumors 68040

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  5. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Doesn't sound like it would. But not sure anyone can really guarantee anything.
     
  6. AndrewR23 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Confirmed. I also called Verizon who said the same.

    So if I quickly replace this 6 tied to his contract and get a new 6 with a new Imei the Imei do not transfer. Therefore with my new Imei if the seller reports it stolen nothing will happen.
     
  7. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    How would you get it replaced though?
     
  8. AndrewR23 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Im doing it through the apple express replacement. I told that senior advisor the truth and they were more then happy to send me a new one to avoid any blacklisting.

    A 800$ hold is going on my CC though lol
     

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