USB 3 Hubs

Discussion in 'Mac Accessories' started by skel_73, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. skel_73 macrumors member

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    Anyone out there discovered a USB 3.0 hub that works properly and reliably? I have a Retina Macbook Pro. Having trouble finding a hub that will play nice with my computer...

    All the ones I've found either have known issues working properly with OSX, or explicitly exclude Retina Macbook Pro in their tech specs.
     
  2. MCAsan macrumors 601

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    My wife has a 4 port Trendnet powered USB 3 hub we got at MicroCenter that works well with her rMBP.
     
  3. Entopia7 macrumors regular

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    I am also on the hunt. I have a 7-port U-Speed powered hub that has given me nothing but trouble. The item description on Amazon now says "not compatible with Retina Macbook Pro." I'm back to my trusty belkin 4-port 2.0 hub until a definitive 3.0 hub appears...

    I don't understand why a hub would be incompatible with a specific computer, although I guess it just doesn't play well with the retina macbook's USB controller. At any rate, I experienced random dropouts, inability to access external drives, and several cases of peripherals simply not working. Frustrating that it wasn't labeled as incompatible when I originally purchased it.
     
  4. scottxxxxx macrumors newbie

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    That is the exact same thing that happened to me. I ended up returning the U Speed since it never worked on my RMBP. I am using a belkin 2.0 4 port for a USB 3 to ESATA and various USB 2.0 HDD and peripherals.

    There is a new firmware update for the RMBP which is supposed to increase USB compatibility, but many users have reported issues after installing the updates. I want a USB 3 Hub so I can attache more USB 3 devices, but I am not ready to sacrifice the stability of my system, just to get more USB 3 ports.


    I do have a WD 2.5" USB 3 drive connected directly to the USB port on my RMBP and it has worked flawlessly for the past several months, so I know that USB 3 functionality is possible, but Hubs seem to be having issues.
     
  5. jjk454ss macrumors 601

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    Any new info on hubs? I need a 3.0 hub for my Mac Mini, but I read so much bad about them I don't know which one I want.

    If only the mini had front usb:confused:.
     
  6. Big Boss Man macrumors regular

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    I have been using a Tripp-Lite USB 3 hub for a couple of days with a new Mac Mini. It works fine so far. I have put it to fairly good use with external HDDs and USB 3 flash drives.
     
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  8. jjk454ss macrumors 601

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    Thanks, just ordered the J-Tech.
     
  9. Neodym macrumors 68000

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    These problems have been one of the reasons why Apple took so long to implement USB3. Yet with all that problems still existing they could really shine with Thunderbolt - too bad they're not interested...

    Oh btw.: To all posters claiming flawless operation - can you get similar speeds with your USB 3 device connected to the hub as you can reach when connected directly to the machine? One of the problems with USB 3 hubs is the massive limitation in data rate with some devices...
     
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  11. AndyDiamond macrumors regular

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    yep: "Currently unavailable.
    We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."

    :(
     
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  13. madman465 macrumors newbie

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    4 port not a problem

    I'm here as I suspect most are searching for answers on USB3.0 hub to macbook with retina display. I have a 4 port option that works flawlessly EVERY time. It's the USRobotics 8400. The problem is, it's only 4 port, and if you daisy chain, then realistically you only have 3 ports available. I have many USB 3.0 drives that I need to connect, and really need a 7 port option. That USpeed 7 port is a piece of junk. Tried several different versions of it, and all had major problems. Alot of the time, wouldn't even recognize connected USB 3 devices. That being said, it worked in my PC just fine, so appears to be an issue with MACbook pro with Retina. Does anyone know of a good 7 port option for the MBPro? Or do I just need to daisy chain several 4 port USR 8400s?
     
  14. WrrN macrumors regular

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    Has anyone tried this hub http://goo.gl/dvtDU ?
    Has the beauty, but not sure of the brawn.
     
  15. AndyDiamond macrumors regular

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    USB2 isn't it?

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    a link to my post on USB 3 hubs:
     
  16. WrrN macrumors regular

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    You're right; thanks for catching that.
    Scratch this hub.
     
  17. LocutusOfBoard macrumors newbie

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    I posted in this thread

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1528292

    about problems that I'm having with my SIIG USB 3/2 hub with ethernet. I initially thought it was just the ethernet that was being fussy due to non-functional drivers.

    But it seems to be beyond that. I also purchased a new USB 3 WD Desktop drive that I had plugged into the hub. It seemed to be working well. But then I noticed that when the computer goes to sleep, the drive fails to wake up or isn't recognized. I have to manually unplug then replug it. This problem does not happen if its plugged into the USB 3 port on my MBP itself.

    So basically none of the hub is working, other than the USB 2 part.
     
  18. skel_73 thread starter macrumors member

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    Update | I got the D-link 4-port Superspeed USB 3 Hub

    Just to let you all know, I got this one, the D-link 4-port Superspeed USB 3 Hub

    http://www.dlink.com/ca/en/home-solutions/connect/usb-hubs/dub-1340-4-port-superspeed-usb-3-hub

    It is pretty fast - I ran Blackmagic Speed Disk Test and found it to be effectively just as fast as connecting directly to the Macbook Pro.

    However almost every morning when I get to the computer, all my connected disks have been dismounted improperly (leaving a warning dialogue box about improper disconnect showing) and I have to pull out the USB cable from the rMBP and reinsert to get my disks back. Sometimes I iPhoto has to recatalogue the image library due to inconsistencies caused by the bad dismounts (I keep my photos on an external USB3 disk to save space).

    So needless to say that issue drives me nuts. I suspect it has something to do with sleep. But I don't really know.

    The hub cost me $50. These types of random dismounts should not happen, it's the kind of thing that should just work. But it seems like issues plague many hubs of different brands.

    I really hope there is some kind of software update that will turn it into a rock solid connection, because when it works, it's great.
     
  19. LocutusOfBoard macrumors newbie

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    This thread reminds me of this ******** ad from a few years back, that implies that Mac works seamlessly with all kinds of hardware:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0qbP-rIpRg

    And yet Macs can't even work properly with USB 3 hubs, devices that shouldn't even need drivers, software or firmware updates, etc.
     
  20. g4cube macrumors 6502a

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    The primary problem with USB 3 hubs is that the test suite for USB 3.0 hub certification has only recently been resolved by USB-IF. The spec defines a suite of tests that hubs and connected devices must pass in order to get certified.

    You will notice on the USB-IF website that there aren't many retail USB 3.0 hubs that are certified.

    Many manufactuers released hubs into the market without certification, as that is not a requirement. To affix the SuperSpeed logo, certification must be secured first. Most USB 3.0 products are not certified.

    Visit the usb.org website for a directory of products that are actually certified.

    As for drivers and firmware, you are only partially correct:
    - computer OS must have drivers that properly implement the USB spec; for USB 3.0, this means some sort of XHCI driver
    - USB hardware chips may or may not be upgradeable with firmware that correct deficiencies. Not all hardware may be fixable by firmware updates. Sometimes an actual hardware design change is necessary
    - while a chip supplier may have firmware updates to fix things, not all manufacturers who manufacture devices using these chips may actually supply firmware updates to correct issues

    Why look for devices that are USB-IF certified?

    The products must have passed electrical and interoperability tests with hubs, OS, and other devices. The tests are functional and electrical, making sure that signal quality and interconnection is goo for operating, cold starts, warm starts, and wake from sleep or hibernation.

    In other words a gauntlet of tests.

    That being said, not all good products carry the SuperSpeed certified logo. Some manufacturers, however, do perform the tests to make their products better.

    Alas, I have several USB 3.0 hubs that work fine for me, but they do not appear to be certified. SO, users will have to rely on recommendations on forums like this one here to help select products that "just work".

    Apple cannot make a poor product work better, if the overall design of that product is defective from the start.
     
  21. Fiete5401 macrumors regular

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    My search on usb.org for certified usb 3.0-hubs resulted in "no entries found".
    The nightmare continues! :eek:
     

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