I see apples iPad lineup is mostly USB-C based. I wonder when Apple will make the iPhone all usb-c. Or perhaps this is not a good idea because Apple has yet to produce a native usb-C headphone product. Yeah I mostly use AirPods, but when on a treadmill or such I prefer a cable pair of headphones and I have 3 lightning headphones. Perhaps the iPhone 14 or 15 pro phones will be usb-c but not the regular phones I don’t know.
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Hard to tell what Apple will do, really. EU legislation should theoretically force them to integrate a universal port (USB-C), but with companies the size of Apple, you never know whether they'll just ignore the legislation and pay whatever fine is associated with it. Depending on how much revenue they get from lightning accessory licensing, it might still be a net profit for them to just stick the proprietary lightning port.
They'll probably do something to the port soon, but whether it is merely updating the standard to support higher USB 3.X speeds, switching to USB-C or getting rid of it altogether remains to be seen. Your guess is as good as anyone's at this point.
I could see them switching to USB-C because I don't think Apple will develop a completely portless iPhone just yet. The inefficiency of wireless charging, slower data transfer speeds and possible issues with problem diagnosis all provide good reasons to stick with a wired connection for now. Granted, the Apple Watch is all wireless, but it's a different kind of device with a much smaller battery and no necessity for huge file transfers. But again, all just speculation.
They'll probably do something to the port soon, but whether it is merely updating the standard to support higher USB 3.X speeds, switching to USB-C or getting rid of it altogether remains to be seen. Your guess is as good as anyone's at this point.
I could see them switching to USB-C because I don't think Apple will develop a completely portless iPhone just yet. The inefficiency of wireless charging, slower data transfer speeds and possible issues with problem diagnosis all provide good reasons to stick with a wired connection for now. Granted, the Apple Watch is all wireless, but it's a different kind of device with a much smaller battery and no necessity for huge file transfers. But again, all just speculation.
ill be grateful if future iPhones uses USB-C so that i can use USB-C Magnetic Cables. Lightning Magnetic Cables always stop working after a few days.
I know I will get blowback from the USB-C lovers who are on YouTube and all of the tech sites. But I hate the USB-C connector. I have two of them on my HP notebook computer. I actually love the computer (yes I know it is Windows, but I work in a Windows world), but I hate the UCB-C connector. It is unreliable. I have to often "adjust" it to keep make sure the computer is charging. The fact that the plug is "female" is the biggest part of the problem in my opinion. I love the lightning connector because it is reliable. The plug is male and it never fails. It is too bad that the USB-C standard didn't adopt the lightning plug. Plus I already own numerous lighting connectors and chargers from previous iPhones and iPads.
I also work in a windows world but I keep windows at work (besides my boot camp partition on my Mac) and choose to own a MacBook Pro at home.
It seems Apple will resist for as long as they can. To the point that there’s speculation that Apple would go full wireless before ever releasing an iPhone with USB-C. I am not a fan of the full wireless iPhone concept. They could’ve just out the damn usb-c in there already. Esp with ProRes support being on iPhones. Transfers are a slow process because Apple are stubborn a*holes.
And F* Apple for those near-useless Lightning headphones!! I’m glad they don’t even have headphones in the box any more only because I’d rather get nothing than lightning headphones that can only ever be used on an iPhone because not even other Apple products use lightning ??♂️ I’ll never understand that decision. Minor thing to complain about but I like Apples Earbuds fine enough and switching to lightning was a huge disappointment to me.
And F* Apple for those near-useless Lightning headphones!! I’m glad they don’t even have headphones in the box any more only because I’d rather get nothing than lightning headphones that can only ever be used on an iPhone because not even other Apple products use lightning ??♂️ I’ll never understand that decision. Minor thing to complain about but I like Apples Earbuds fine enough and switching to lightning was a huge disappointment to me.
The EU legislation only requires devices capable of wired charging to have a USB-C port. Apple will simply delete the Lightning port to make iPhone incapable of wired charging.
Apple has already has a complete solution. They have Internet-based recovery tools for iPhone and 15W wireless charging. They will continue to earn royalty with MagSafe. All pieces of the puzzle are ready.
Apple has already has a complete solution. They have Internet-based recovery tools for iPhone and 15W wireless charging. They will continue to earn royalty with MagSafe. All pieces of the puzzle are ready.
I really don’t see Apple going portless anywhere in the near future. If you need to charge quickly, you need a wire, IMO.
Yes, or when you’re traveling in general. Are you supposed to bring a wireless charger with you, as opposed to a simple cable? It doesn’t make sense.
Yes, Apple wants you to buy the MagSafe puck. The whole system works, it’s just more expensive. Will it charge quickly enough? Again, yes at 20W.
How can you charge wirelessly if your phone dies completely?
You have to remember that wireless charging only works when the phone is actually turned on… or have they fixed that now?
It would be nice to go USB-C on the iPhone. I went away this week and took an iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch. Each device has its own charger which seems bizarre from the same manufacturer in 2022. At least make the iPad and iPhone the same charging format. Never bothered with MagSafe as the charger itself is £59 which is ludicrous when standard wireless chargers can be bought for £10 on Amazon. I’ve had a wireless charger at home for 5 years and it’s always done the job.
I'm pretty sure that's a choice by Apple rather than a technical limitation. There are countless number of users with "dead" Watches and iPhones who have charged their devices from 0%.
It’s very hard to completely discharge device. Once had problem with dead iPad Pro 2018 11” - was not able to charge it using stock charger, needed to buy at least 45W one.
When device is dead warming it up with for instance hair dryer (careful!) might help boot it up as the colder battery is the worse battery is (used fridge in the past to ”kill” MiBand 1gen when had it bricked to do hardcore reset
)I am taking a trip this weekend and my iPhone and iPad use the same charger.
As much as I'd hate to buy a bunch of new cables it would be much better for me that totally port less. I have a car with no wireless connections today so I'd have to get wireless charger and wireless CarPlay. I'd have to get wireless charger for home and to carry with me when I travel etc. As much as I'd hate to get a ton of new cables - better that port less.
Even if Apple changes the port from lightning to USB-C, it doesn’t mean that it has to be faster.
BTW, a wireless connection with 802.11ax will give you almost 1GB/s transfer speed.
When completely off, facing my iPhone 11 Pro Max on a wireless charger turns the phone on and proceeds to charge. That's how it's been since I had this phone since release. I'm not sure about if the battery is at 0% though.
Good luck for most people to actually see anywhere near 1GB/s on wireless any time soon.
Also compare that to 10GB/s USB-c, or if they include a thunderbolt 4 controller on iPhone Pro, it could be 40GB/s.
It doesn’t have to be faster, but why would they make it the same speed or slower? Wouldn’t they have done that to iPad? Why would they treat iPhone any different than iPad when switching the port?
With an ad hoc connection from iPhone 13PM to any of my m1 based computers(all have 802.11ax) I get about 900MB/s.
I seriously doubt that Apple would go with TB3 or TB4 on a phone but that would be great but I think you’re being a little optimistic with the speed. It’s 40Gb/s not GB/s and the USB speed you were comparing is 10Gb/s not GB/s.
If Apple gives in to the EU I think we should all mail our worthless cables, etc to the EU headquarters. Let them deal with the trash they created.
I hate that government is trying to ruin what successful companies have created
I hate that government is trying to ruin what successful companies have created
Not been my experience with lightning. They are the only connector/cord that I have plugged into a phone, the phone lit up, the little lighting bolt is through the battery icon indicating it is charging yet it isn’t at all. I’ve had that happen with 2 or 3 cables. It’s annoying beyond belief. I mean if it ain’t working don’t show that it is wtf.