USB2.0 vs. FW400 for external drives for video editing.

Discussion in 'Digital Video' started by iShater, Oct 16, 2008.

  1. iShater macrumors 604

    iShater

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    With all the noise of the latest MB changes, I haven't been able to see a straight answer regarding this question.

    Regardless of what I replace my 12" PB with, and whether I continue using my FW miniDV camera or a newer HDD HiDef one, I still have a choice of doing the import on my iMac at home. So I can "survive" without the FW on a MacBook for doing the initial import for the video.

    My concern is about the editing process. I currently use external FW400 7200RPM drives to store the video project files for editing.

    If I go with a MB and USB2.0 only, will I still be able to perform that editing without issues? will the through-put and speed of the drive be bad enough compared to FW that it is not worth it?

    Thank you.
     
  2. iShater thread starter macrumors 604

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    Thanks, that covers the video import, for which I am sure FW is better.

    I'm wondering if there are issues with the editing processes if your scratch/project disk is USB2.0 vs. FW.
     
  3. TimNiego macrumors newbie

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    I've not experienced the problems others have had with capture and editing via a USB 2.0 hard drive. I edited and captured HDV footage on a 12" Powerbook for three years without dropped frames nor significant sluggishness. I was using FCS 1. I needed to use USB because I only had 1 firewire port that I needed to connect to the camera for capture. The drive I used was OWC's 100 gb small portable drive (don't have it with me right now for the specifics)

    Currently I haven't had any problems with my early 2008 MBP editing with the above equipment. (It's still only equipped with 1 FW 400 port)
     
  4. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    USB 2.0 isn't recommend but that doesn't mean it won't work.


    Lethal
     
  5. ChemiosMurphy macrumors 6502

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    You could probably use Dv/HDV since they have a small footprint, but anything above that, forget it. It's not worth the hassle.
     
  6. iShater thread starter macrumors 604

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    I decided I am too much of a believer in FW to give in. I ended up ordering a last gen 15" MBP, and will be getting a Canon HV20/HV30 to replace my JVC miniDV SD camcorder.

    That way I can still import via FW and can still edit on my external FW HDs.
     
  7. slu macrumors 68000

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    So I just got a last generation Macbook because I wanted a Firewire port, but I want to also use a Firewire scratch drive.

    Do you guys recommend a Firewire hub (as the linked post above seems to suggest), do you recommend daisy chaining the cam to the drive, or should I capture to the internal disk and then copy the files over to the scratch drive after capture?

    I am using FCE 4.
     
  8. Chaos123x macrumors 68000

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    USB 2.0 will work but it's more likely that you drop frames, plus it won't be able to play as many video streams at once.
     
  9. highjumppudding macrumors 6502

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    never use usb for video editing. firewire 400 is the bare minimum. firewire 800 i use as a standard for externals. esata is even better. internals are the best though (mac pro only). NEVER use your boot drive for media.
     
  10. iShater thread starter macrumors 604

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    I used to capture to the scratch FW drive directly, didn't see any issues.
     
  11. notjustjay macrumors 603

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    I used a USB drive as a scratch disk for editing DV video in FCE.

    For the first 5 minutes of the timeline it seemed to work fine, but as the project got longer and I started needing to access more and more data on the drive, it started to get very distinctly jerky.
     
  12. slu macrumors 68000

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    Thanks. I tried this with a small project (only about 23 total minutes of footage, about a 5 minute finished product) and it worked fine.

    Hopefully I have the same success with a larger project!
     

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