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USB3.1 for MAC and Window is here

FireWire2

FireWire2

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I'm happy to announce that I take a plunge into USB 3.1 arena with this card.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XAT4IH4

It works, no drivers or additional software to install on my MAC OS 10.9.5
 
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FireWire2 said:
I'm happy to announce that I take a plunge into USB 3.1 arena with this card.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XAT4IH4

It works, no drivers or additional software to install on my MAC OS 10.9.5
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It appears to have a connector at the rear edge of board. Is this for additional power, and is it required?

Once your card arrives, please let us know.
 
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UISB3.1 work with 10.7.5

I have this card this morning! Here is how i play with it.
MAC mini
Using Akitio TB2 and USB 3.1 from DATOptic
It shows up no software or additional kext needed. But I need an external power source to connect to this USB 3.1
I test with SSD, SATA drives and SATA III Port Multiplier with
U3eSATA adapter - the USB 3.0 that support eSATA with Port Multiplier enclosure
I can access 5x SATA HDD as JBOD.
Then I test the same card with my MAC Pro 2008 runs 10.7.5
Again i have to use this cable
LP4SATAFM12.main.jpg


It does not work! Darn it - after little searching:
I use this GenericUSBXHCI
http://sourceforge.net/projects/genericusbxhci/files/

Reboot! Bam there is it

It's a bit inconvenient with extra power cable, but i guess it delivers 1.5A @ 5V, therefore additional power is needed

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mikeboss said:
there's already a thread about USB 3.1 ->

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1866301/
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Will link over there ! Did not see it :)
 
FireWire2 said:
It's a bit inconvenient with extra power cable, but i guess it delivers 1.5A @ 5V, therefore additional power is needed
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I'm a little bit pissed about this (not at you...at the card makers).

We went through this with the USB 3.0 cards, where supplemental power needed to be hooked up. It's a pain in the MP to do this--I've done it.

And it's not necessary! Today there are plenty of USB 3.0 cards that draw all their power from the PCIe slot.

The PCIe slot provides up to 75 watts of power. 1.5A@5V on two ports is about 15 watts. So there is WAY more than enough power from the slot for this USB 3.1 card's output.

I don't want people to have to go back to routing power cables. I'll assume it's the same lazy design issues we put up with last time for the early USB 3.0 cards, and I'll hope that future cards will eliminate the separate power requirement.
 
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ActionableMango said:
I'm a little bit pissed about this (not at you...at the card makers).

We went through this with the USB 3.0 cards, where supplemental power needed to be hooked up. It's a pain in the MP to do this--I've done it.

And it's not necessary! Today there are plenty of USB 3.0 cards that draw all their power from the PCIe slot.

The PCIe slot provides up to 75 watts of power. 1.5A@5V on two ports is about 15 watts. So there is WAY more than enough power from the slot for this USB 3.1 card's output.

I don't want people to have to go back to routing power cables. I'll assume it's the same lazy design issues we put up with last time for the early USB 3.0 cards, and I'll hope that future cards will eliminate the separate power requirement.
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They won't have to I'm told. I'm not allowed to say too much until it comes to fruition but expect a 4 port 4 lane card with independent controllers that requires no drivers, no extra power, from a vendor I regularly deal with.
 
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FireWire2 said:
Will have this later today i hope,otherwise it should be here tomorrow

USB 3.1 to SATAIII (6Gb) direct connect support UASP, MAC, Windows and Linux
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I'm curious what single SATA device, exactly, would benefit from being plugged into this USB 3.1 adapter compared to a similar, but USB 3.0 adapter? I mean, I use these devices all the time, even with SSD's and get full transfer speed with my 3.0 versions.

I don't see the benefit of this having USB 3.1 for twice the price. As a matter of fact, I'm wondering what USB 3.1 will really be used for that will be faster than USB 3.0? Multi-drive arrays, yes. What else will see faster speed from 3.1 over 3.0?
 
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dmylrea said:
I'm curious what single SATA device, exactly, would benefit from being plugged into this USB 3.1 adapter compared to a similar, but USB 3.0 adapter? I mean, I use these devices all the time, even with SSD's and get full transfer speed with my 3.0 versions.

I don't see the benefit of this having USB 3.1 for twice the price. As a matter of fact, I'm wondering what USB 3.1 will really be used for that will be faster than USB 3.0? Multi-drive arrays, yes. What else will see faster speed from 3.1 over 3.0?
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Probably not much benefit right now other than keeping up with evolving standards.
 
dmylrea said:
I'm curious what single SATA device, exactly, would benefit from being plugged into this USB 3.1 adapter compared to a similar, but USB 3.0 adapter? I mean, I use these devices all the time, even with SSD's and get full transfer speed with my 3.0 versions.

I don't see the benefit of this having USB 3.1 for twice the price. As a matter of fact, I'm wondering what USB 3.1 will really be used for that will be faster than USB 3.0? Multi-drive arrays, yes. What else will see faster speed from 3.1 over 3.0?
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As far as I know USB with UASP transfer data lot more efficient.
If you're already have USB 3.0, i dont think it makes sense to upgrade ... But I intend to find out USB 3.1 really transfer over 800MB/s as Asmedia and DATOptic claim
 
crjackson2134 said:
They won't have to I'm told. I'm not allowed to say too much until it comes to fruition but expect a 4 port 4 lane card with independent controllers that requires no drivers, no extra power, from a vendor I regularly deal with.
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@crjackson2134...any words that you can share yet? I was looking at getting a 3.0 pcie card, but would really like to get a 3.1 card IF it's really plug-n-play.
 
crjackson2134 said:
RocketU 1322A

I find it to be very underwhelming. It doesn't seem to bring anything new to the table over USB 3.0. So far I'm disappointed, I won't be jumping on the bandwagon just yet.
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Really inaccurate marketing and inconsistent info on a single page. Unless they are supplying XHCI 1.1 drivers they shouldn't claim 3.1 speeds on a Mac. Also, pairing ports into one connection doesn't count.
 
crjackson2134 said:
They won't have to I'm told. I'm not allowed to say too much until it comes to fruition but expect a 4 port 4 lane card with independent controllers that requires no drivers, no extra power, from a vendor I regularly deal with.
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I have no access to insider info, vendors, etc. and this is my own speculation so take it with the required grain of salt, but this description pretty much fits the Sonnet Allegro Pro USB 3.0 card that came out earlier this year. The regular non-pro Allegro (I have one of these installed in my 4,1->5,1) runs completely on internal power from the card slot and requires no additional wires or drivers. It had 4 ports sharing 1 controller. It has worked flawlessly for me. The Pro version features 4 USB 3.0 controllers and 4 USB 3.0 ports for more throughput per port if you connect many devices. Pretty easy to imagine Sonnet evolving this product line into a USB 3.1 solution. Sonnet's current USB 3.0 cards are pricey but they are fire-and-forget and hassle-free once they installed and that justified the extra cost for me.
 
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