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I know this thread is old, but I'll respond to the poster above me.

For what it's worth, I go to USC as a Business major and I am friends with about five people who are in the film school. All of them have had very positive experiences and there are a ton of extra-curricular projects and internships they have done.

The Lucas building that a poster over two years ago mentioned as being under construction is now completed and it's absolutely breathtaking (http://massengale.typepad.com/venustas/images/2009/02/09/usc_film_school.jpg).

I'm having the best time of my life (although I'm sure a ton of students at other universities feel the same way). I really can't recommend the school highly enough for those thinking of it. People who refer to USC as University of Spoiled Children are clinging to a 20 year old stereotype because they are insecure about where they go. Over 50% of our student body receives financial aid and while there are a ton of people with money here, that's the whole reason we all get such great connections by the time we graduate.

If you have any questions I'd be more than happy to answer them.
 
When I toured the campus down there I was in awe of the Lucas building; I'm applying to the school for the wrong program (not that the rest of the campus isn't nice too)!

It is indeed. I hope you get into the program you're applying for (I remember from the PM's when I messaged you about it).


Anyway, as I said, I'd be more than happy to answer any questions dealing with my experiences at USC and I'm also willing to disparage UCLA at any opportunity I can.
 
Hi I have a question for anyone that knows anything about USC or even UCLA and their film schools. My question is what does it take to get in to one of these universities. My GPA is between 3.8-3.9. What else would I need to get in. Video is the love of my life and I would like to turn it into a career. Thanks for your help, JohnMC.

BTW, I'm in 10th Grade.

You will never be sorry you did. It opens up a lot of venues for your soul. The recording engineer who did my album got his bachelor's from one film school and his master's from the other (USC, UCLA) but not sure in what order. He is also a writer. And he's one of the happier people I know.

While he never went into film making, and while many film makers never went to college, you will never regret having studied something you love which will open up all areas of your life. If you love film, start yesterday as any film student now will tell you.
 
For what it's worth, I go to USC as a Business major and I am friends with about five people who are in the film school. All of them have had very positive experiences and there are a ton of extra-curricular projects and internships they have done.

Thanks for your help. Do you know how many film classes freshmen and sophomores get to take? Or are the first two years just GE years?

One reason I don't like UCLA is that you can't apply to the film program until the end of your sophomore year, which is sort of a bummer for someone who wants to do film right away.

Thanks again!
 
Thanks for your help. Do you know how many film classes freshmen and sophomores get to take? Or are the first two years just GE years?

One reason I don't like UCLA is that you can't apply to the film program until the end of your sophomore year, which is sort of a bummer for someone who wants to do film right away.

Thanks again!

Just talked to my former roommate for you about his experience: The film program usually recommends you concentrate on GE's your first couple years but you're free to take film classes whenever you want. My roommate said he took at least one film class every semester for the first two years while getting his GE's out of the way, so that seems to be a lot better than UCLA offers and it gives you the option to see if it's really what you want to do.
 
Thanks and please tell your film friend thanks, too. One more question: do you know how many film production students USC admits as freshmen? I read somewhere that it's very small—somewhere around 20.
 
Here is some real information on USC's School of Cinematic Arts (SCA).

I'm in my last semester of the MFA Production program here, not the BFA, but I have come to know the School very well having gone through all the curriculum, been a teaching assistant, and worked in the equipment centers and the post-production labs. Here's what I can tell you about how USC's film school really works....

Getting Accepted
Scroll up and read killr_b's post. She is correct about nearly everything she wrote. Ignore the others who disagreed with her, none of their arguments hold water in my opinion. I find it sad that the one poster who had genuine information was dealt with the harshest by those who have no idea what they're talking about.

It is extremely competitive to get in, and getting more so every year. If you want to be accepted you will have to work hard and show real dedication. Read her post and pay attention to what she wrote:

1) Stellar Grades & SATs
This is more for the University than for the SCA. Your scores will have to be a lot better than “good” – I’m sorry but there’s just no substitute for hard work.

2) Killer Personal Statement and Written Submissions
This is the big one here, this is what the SCA cares about the most. Don't dash them off the night before they're due. Write and re-write and polish them until they shine. Grammar and spelling had better be perfect (so make sure you have a teacher or a tutor look them over) but even so, the content is what matters.

3) Excellent Letters of Recommendation
No need to panic here. The best letters come from people who know you well, who have obtained some stature or success. The theater director that killr_b mentioned, or a local councilman, or some other local luminary. The point is, you need to think ahead and cultivate a relationship with someone like that. One of my letters was written by the President of the New York chapter of the Film Editor’s Guild. I had interviewed him for a class, kept in touch with him, and when the time came that I needed a letter from him he was happy to do it.

4) Extra-curricular Activities
The point of these is to show that you are a collaborator and a leader, that you have a demonstrated ability to successfully contribute to a group endeavor. Having done a lot of film-related stuff prior to school isn't that big a deal. They are not looking for that.

The most important thing to remember is that everything you give them needs to demonstrate that you have a distinct point of view about the world in general and filmmaking in particular.

Easier said than done, right? If you’re a transgender person who has always struggled to find your place in society or some other sad hack story, then you’re in good shape – write about that and as long as you don’t misspell your own name, you’re probably in. But if you’re like most people you’re probably wondering “what’s so special about me? How can I convince anyone I’m unique?”

The good news is that everyone is unique. You just need to figure out how to get “who you are” out of your head and into your Personal Statement.


My Grades Suck, Now What?
So you read all that above and your heart sank as you realized that your grades aren’t good enough, you didn’t do any extracurriculars, and you don’t know anyone who can write you a good LoR.

Again, killr_b has the answer: Get an AA at a smaller college, work your butt off and do everything you need to do to lay the groundwork. That speaks very loudly to admissions people because you have proven to them that you can do well in college. Anyone who’s been there can tell you that college is not high school, not everyone who does great in HS does well in college and vice versa. And this gives you the opportunity to discover if you even like being in college before you start racking up USC-sized debt.

An AA degree doesn’t have to be boring. You can concentrate on film studies, communication and media, stuff that you can use in filmmaking later, and having a goal you’re really invested in makes it a lot easier to work hard. Let your counselors and teachers know what your goals are and they will help you.

You might even consider getting a Bachelors degree first – that’s what I did. Study writing, communications, history, science, business, heck, even art history will be of benefit in film school (actually art history is of huge benefit in film school). Take a year off and travel Europe or get a job and experience life a little bit and then apply to an MFA film production program.

Why USC?
Ok, so there has been a lot written here trashing USC, almost all of it from people who don’t really know what they’re talking about. In the three years that I’ve been studying here I can say that USC has only one real drawback: it is effing expensive!

When I was choosing schools I did a lot of research. I visited NYU, Columbia, Florida State’s conservatory, UT-Austin, USC, and a couple of smaller places. USC had a great program that rivaled all the others, but what impressed me the most were the students. Of all the places I had been, they were the most open, friendly, and supportive.

Let me say something about size. Now that I’m here I realize that you don’t want to go to a small school. What you want – what you need – is a big school with a large variety of students. You need students to crew on your film and you need students who are simpatico with you. However strange and unusual you think you are, you will find a group of like-minded friends here at USC. And classes themselves are small, that’s what counts. Except for very few crit studies or script analysis classes, there are no large lecture classes where you’re lost in a sea of seats. All production classes are workshop classes where you will bond with the instructor and the other students.

USC is an industry school. When you are here you will learn to do things the “industry way.” Ties between the school and the industry are so tight that being here feels like you are already in the film industry. You quickly realize that your fellow students are your future peers in the industry – they will be hiring you or you will be hiring them for the rest of your careers. I have never heard of any student sabotaging another student’s film. If it has ever happened it must be rare in the extreme.

What you learn here is the real deal. Everything they teach you here is real-world practical.

Let me digress for a moment to address the whole digital vs. film thing. Yes, film is cool and every student should be exposed (pardon the pun) to film (and you will be at USC). But USC’s focus on digital equipment is definitely NOT a bad thing. The industry is moving to digital and USC is always on the cutting edge. A few years ago it was non-linear editing: graduating students were sought after because they knew it well and working pros often lagged behind. A couple years ago it was HD: the Red camera, the Genesis, etc. USC shooters were conversant in HD and were very much in demand. Coming up it’s going to be MoCap – I took the Motion Capture class last semester and am enrolled in Performance Capture this semester. Robert Zemeckis co-teaches it with USC faculty!

So what you learn here is the real deal. Last year I took a sequence of classes in which we made a TV pilot. Students take on different roles over the course of the year. I was one of the writers, one of the editors, and the post-production supervisor. It was an incredible learning experience.

Last week I had the good fortune to be invited to spend the day shadowing the post-supe of a major network show (this is a CBS show that’s been on for five years). I spent the day on the Universal lot sitting in on sound mixing sessions, production meetings, spotting sessions, pre-vis meetings, etc. During that day every single thing I saw was already familiar to me because either I had done it or supervised it during our TV pilot class. My role as a student post-supervisor in the TV pilot class had taught me what it was really like to be post-supervisor in professional television.

At the end of the spotting session the professional post-supe asked me what my notes where. I was stunned that they would care what a student thought. But my experiences in class had prepared me so well that I actually had some educated opinions about it, I even spotted one mistake that no one else had seen. They corrected the mistake and took some of my recommendations, and those changes are going to show up when CBS broadcasts the show in a couple of weeks.

Will you get that kind of experience at Chapman, Columbia College Hollywood, or ASU?

I could write a lot more but will leave off here. If anyone has more questions about USC's School of Cinematic Arts, either the application process or the program itself, feel free to send me an email.

-- Dennis Castello
 
I'm trying to decide between applying to the Film & TV production program or the Peter Stark producing program at USC. Does anyone have any additional insight into either program?
 
Starkie? To be or not to be....

They are both excellent programs but they each have a very different focus. If I knew what you wanted to do in the industry I could answer your question better. Also, what experience do you already have in the industry, if any?
-- Dennis
 
Here is some real information on USC's School of Cinematic Arts (SCA).

I'm in my last semester of the MFA Production program here, not the BFA, but I have come to know the School very well having gone through all the curriculum, been a teaching assistant, and worked in the equipment centers and the post-production labs. Here's what I can tell you about how USC's film school really works....

Getting Accepted
Scroll up and read killr_b's post. She is correct about nearly everything she wrote. Ignore the others who disagreed with her, none of their arguments hold water in my opinion. I find it sad that the one poster who had genuine information was dealt with the harshest by those who have no idea what they're talking about.

It is extremely competitive to get in, and getting more so every year. If you want to be accepted you will have to work hard and show real dedication. Read her post and pay attention to what she wrote:

1) Stellar Grades & SATs
This is more for the University than for the SCA. Your scores will have to be a lot better than “good” – I’m sorry but there’s just no substitute for hard work.

2) Killer Personal Statement and Written Submissions
This is the big one here, this is what the SCA cares about the most. Don't dash them off the night before they're due. Write and re-write and polish them until they shine. Grammar and spelling had better be perfect (so make sure you have a teacher or a tutor look them over) but even so, the content is what matters.

3) Excellent Letters of Recommendation
No need to panic here. The best letters come from people who know you well, who have obtained some stature or success. The theater director that killr_b mentioned, or a local councilman, or some other local luminary. The point is, you need to think ahead and cultivate a relationship with someone like that. One of my letters was written by the President of the New York chapter of the Film Editor’s Guild. I had interviewed him for a class, kept in touch with him, and when the time came that I needed a letter from him he was happy to do it.

4) Extra-curricular Activities
The point of these is to show that you are a collaborator and a leader, that you have a demonstrated ability to successfully contribute to a group endeavor. Having done a lot of film-related stuff prior to school isn't that big a deal. They are not looking for that.

The most important thing to remember is that everything you give them needs to demonstrate that you have a distinct point of view about the world in general and filmmaking in particular.

Easier said than done, right? If you’re a transgender person who has always struggled to find your place in society or some other sad hack story, then you’re in good shape – write about that and as long as you don’t misspell your own name, you’re probably in. But if you’re like most people you’re probably wondering “what’s so special about me? How can I convince anyone I’m unique?”

The good news is that everyone is unique. You just need to figure out how to get “who you are” out of your head and into your Personal Statement.


My Grades Suck, Now What?
So you read all that above and your heart sank as you realized that your grades aren’t good enough, you didn’t do any extracurriculars, and you don’t know anyone who can write you a good LoR.

Again, killr_b has the answer: Get an AA at a smaller college, work your butt off and do everything you need to do to lay the groundwork. That speaks very loudly to admissions people because you have proven to them that you can do well in college. Anyone who’s been there can tell you that college is not high school, not everyone who does great in HS does well in college and vice versa. And this gives you the opportunity to discover if you even like being in college before you start racking up USC-sized debt.

An AA degree doesn’t have to be boring. You can concentrate on film studies, communication and media, stuff that you can use in filmmaking later, and having a goal you’re really invested in makes it a lot easier to work hard. Let your counselors and teachers know what your goals are and they will help you.

You might even consider getting a Bachelors degree first – that’s what I did. Study writing, communications, history, science, business, heck, even art history will be of benefit in film school (actually art history is of huge benefit in film school). Take a year off and travel Europe or get a job and experience life a little bit and then apply to an MFA film production program.

Why USC?
Ok, so there has been a lot written here trashing USC, almost all of it from people who don’t really know what they’re talking about. In the three years that I’ve been studying here I can say that USC has only one real drawback: it is effing expensive!

When I was choosing schools I did a lot of research. I visited NYU, Columbia, Florida State’s conservatory, UT-Austin, USC, and a couple of smaller places. USC had a great program that rivaled all the others, but what impressed me the most were the students. Of all the places I had been, they were the most open, friendly, and supportive.

Let me say something about size. Now that I’m here I realize that you don’t want to go to a small school. What you want – what you need – is a big school with a large variety of students. You need students to crew on your film and you need students who are simpatico with you. However strange and unusual you think you are, you will find a group of like-minded friends here at USC. And classes themselves are small, that’s what counts. Except for very few crit studies or script analysis classes, there are no large lecture classes where you’re lost in a sea of seats. All production classes are workshop classes where you will bond with the instructor and the other students.

USC is an industry school. When you are here you will learn to do things the “industry way.” Ties between the school and the industry are so tight that being here feels like you are already in the film industry. You quickly realize that your fellow students are your future peers in the industry – they will be hiring you or you will be hiring them for the rest of your careers. I have never heard of any student sabotaging another student’s film. If it has ever happened it must be rare in the extreme.

What you learn here is the real deal. Everything they teach you here is real-world practical.

Let me digress for a moment to address the whole digital vs. film thing. Yes, film is cool and every student should be exposed (pardon the pun) to film (and you will be at USC). But USC’s focus on digital equipment is definitely NOT a bad thing. The industry is moving to digital and USC is always on the cutting edge. A few years ago it was non-linear editing: graduating students were sought after because they knew it well and working pros often lagged behind. A couple years ago it was HD: the Red camera, the Genesis, etc. USC shooters were conversant in HD and were very much in demand. Coming up it’s going to be MoCap – I took the Motion Capture class last semester and am enrolled in Performance Capture this semester. Robert Zemeckis co-teaches it with USC faculty!

So what you learn here is the real deal. Last year I took a sequence of classes in which we made a TV pilot. Students take on different roles over the course of the year. I was one of the writers, one of the editors, and the post-production supervisor. It was an incredible learning experience.

Last week I had the good fortune to be invited to spend the day shadowing the post-supe of a major network show (this is a CBS show that’s been on for five years). I spent the day on the Universal lot sitting in on sound mixing sessions, production meetings, spotting sessions, pre-vis meetings, etc. During that day every single thing I saw was already familiar to me because either I had done it or supervised it during our TV pilot class. My role as a student post-supervisor in the TV pilot class had taught me what it was really like to be post-supervisor in professional television.

At the end of the spotting session the professional post-supe asked me what my notes where. I was stunned that they would care what a student thought. But my experiences in class had prepared me so well that I actually had some educated opinions about it, I even spotted one mistake that no one else had seen. They corrected the mistake and took some of my recommendations, and those changes are going to show up when CBS broadcasts the show in a couple of weeks.

Will you get that kind of experience at Chapman, Columbia College Hollywood, or ASU?

I could write a lot more but will leave off here. If anyone has more questions about USC's School of Cinematic Arts, either the application process or the program itself, feel free to send me an email.

-- Dennis Castello

Hey dennis i am going to attend USC summer film program and i would like to ask you some questions. I am new to this website and i don't know how to send you a private message.
 
All I got to say is the USC Cinema school is pretty ballin with all those new buildings.

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