USC vs Texas

[Studawg7]

I was just happy USC lost so freakin' ESPN would shut their friggin pieholes. USC this, USC that, USC best team ever. No freakin way, especially when Kirk "Assclown" Herbstreit said that '05 USC could beat '95 Nebraska (Which many regard aas the best college team ever), because "Nebraska didn't have a balanced offense."

Whatever dumbtard, take your USC fanboyism and suck it. That '95 team had a Vince Young (Tommie Frazier) and 2 Reggie Bush's (Ahman Green and Lawrence Phillips).

haha! yeah i stopped watching espn for 2 weeks b/c of thier coverage. i was hoping to get some indepth looks at Virginia and Minnesota for the Music City Bowl, but no. All the way up until kick off it was USC this Texas that ... and on and on and on. Now i know that the music city bowl isnt a big bowl but come on, tell me something about the teams who are actually going to be playing!!

 

[goodwill]

You know, I was looking at the attached photo above about the one-pete.

To be realistic, USC never outright had sole National Champion status that UT has.

In the photo it has Nick Saban holding the trophy in '04 because USC shared with LSU, last year, USC shared with Auburn (isn't this right?) and obviously, this year, they lost to Texas and Texas is now undisputed.

 

[aloofman]

In the photo it has Nick Saban holding the trophy in '04 because USC shared with LSU, last year, USC shared with Auburn (isn't this right?) and obviously, this year, they lost to Texas and Texas is now undisputed.

That's the first time I've heard someone describe Auburn as last year's co-champion. What is that based on?

 

[doucy2]

Go Texas
USC doesnt need 3 championships
Young played his best game ever
i hope he decised to go into the NFL draft
1st pick will be Regie Bush to the Texans unless they trade Carr
2nd pick will be Young to the Saints
i wish he was go to a better team lol

Go Longhorns!!

 

[Cfg5]

The Texans are stupid if they take Bush or Young. They need major help on o-line, David Carr was sacked 68 times! They also need another good receiver opposite Andre Johnson. They also need major help on D. Their problems aren't David Carr or Domanick Davis.

 

[adk]

That's the first time I've heard someone describe Auburn as last year's co-champion. What is that based on?

The fact that Auburn went undefeated in the SEC, an indisputably tougher conference than the PAC 10 or the Big 12 and was given a #3 BCS ranking. This forced them to play in the sugar bowl (which they won). Since Auburn never had a chance to actually play for #1, many people view Auburn as having won at least a share of the national title.

 

[aloofman]

The fact that Auburn went undefeated in the SEC, an indisputably tougher conference than the PAC 10 or the Big 12 and was given a #3 BCS ranking. This forced them to play in the sugar bowl (which they won). Since Auburn never had a chance to actually play for #1, many people view Auburn as having won at least a share of the national title.

The difference between Auburn 2004 and USC 2003 being that Auburn wasn't ranked #1 in any poll at the end of the season, so they couldn't be considered to share the title. The BCS is definitely worth quibbling about, but the #4 team didn't get to play for the title either.

 

[adk]

The difference between Auburn 2004 and USC 2003 being that Auburn wasn't ranked #1 in any poll at the end of the season, so they couldn't be considered to share the title. The BCS is definitely worth quibbling about, but the #4 team didn't get to play for the title either.

Disputes like this show why division 1 should have a playoff system. Each college football season should end with zero or one undefeated team. period.

 

[aloofman]

Disputes like this show why division 1 should have a playoff system. Each college football season should end with zero or one undefeated team. period.

I completely agree. With a playoff system it's very likely that USC would have been in the title game in 2003 and Auburn would have been last year. And nobody could have claimed it wasn't decided on the field.

Unfortunately, the NCAA makes too much money on the bowl system to seriously consider replacing it. It's stupefying to me that schools make millions of dollars to appear in a non-title postseason game, games that basically decide who's #6, or #12, or whatever. Unless you're a die-hard fan of a team that's playing in the Cotton Bowl, why even watch the game?

 

[goodwill]

i think a playoff system is the way to go. for one, corporations would be just as please. and then you also have the "Final Four" type of set up, which would ultimately lead to the real Super Bowl of college sports. The competition would be there. If NFL teams can play 16-17 games a season, a college team would have no issue playing the possible equivalent depending on their schedule and conference championship games.

 

[xsedrinam]

i think a playoff system is the way to go. for one, corporations would be just as please. and then you also have the "Final Four" type of set up, which would ultimately lead to the real Super Bowl of college sports. The competition would be there. If NFL teams can play 16-17 games a season, a college team would have no issue playing the possible equivalent depending on their schedule and conference championship games.

The argument for or against has droned on for decades, now. The "competition", "who's #1", "NCAA basketball/baseball does it", "the NFL does it" arguments really don't count when faced with the bottom line issue. Big Money. http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051215/COLUMNS46/512150328/1235/sports As long as the College Bowl Corporation is willing to shell out $2 Billion over the next ten years, and some 24 participating colleges and universities realize over $193 Million in annual bowl revenue, and hosting cities realize some $1 Billion in local spending by visiting loyalists, I don't see the playoff scenario in NCAA Football happening any time soon.

 

[cgratti]

I'm sorry, but that rosebowl game was just a little surprising. I mean, come on. Texas touchdown off of a lateral? He was clearly down and they review nearly every other play. Secondly, USC clearly recovered a FUMBLE from a Texas pass. It was definitely complete, and they reviewed it!!! Maybe I'm just pissed since I was rooting for USC but honestly, anyone else think it was a little screwy?

First off, if you watched any other USC games this year they led the nation in bogus calls in their favor. Human error is part of the game and on the lateral his knee was down, but thats the call on the field. Second the pass was NOT complete, they showed the replay 100 times in super slow motion, if you watch it at normal speed you can see that he did not have possession of the ball, as the rules state for it to be a complete pass he must gain possession and attempt to make what they consider a "football" move, he didnt have possession long enough to make a move with it, it was immediately knocked from his arms. It was a good call by the refs. I am not being biased, I am an Irish fan.

 

[Bubbasteve]

The Texans are stupid if they take Bush or Young. They need major help on o-line, David Carr was sacked 68 times! They also need another good receiver opposite Andre Johnson. They also need major help on D. Their problems aren't David Carr or Domanick Davis.

So maybe they will choose to get a scrambling QB so they don't need to fix the o-line I kid I kid

 

[Bubbasteve]

I am an Irish fan.

Brady Quinn is going to win the Heisman next year......with that out of the way

1.) Texans - Reggie Bush
2.) Saints - Vince Young/Matt Leinhart (depending if he goes into the draft or not)
3.) Titans - Matt Leinhart (assuming he isn't taken in place for Vince Young)

Yeah that's all I got... personally if I were the Packers or Niners I would draft LenDale White because IMO he is very underrated and that Rosebowl showed it

 

[dukebound85]

Brady Quinn Heisman haha sure.

My bet for the top contenders will be on well Vince Young if he comes back, Adrian Peterson, Troy Smith, and Chris Leak. If Oklahoma returns like alot of anaylysts are predicting next year, I feel either Young or Petersen will win it and will largely come down to their meeting in the season.

 

[G4scott]

I thought the officiating during the game was very fair. You could say the UT Interception that was called incomplete made up for the Vince lateral with the knee down, but overall, very good officiating. You could possibly say UT was also robbed of an extra point, which from where I was sitting, looked like it was good, but I'm not complaining.

There's all this talk now, about whether Vince will go pro or not, and he has yet to make that decision. I hope he'll stay another year, and from what I've heard, there's a good chance he will, but I'm not Vince Young and I can't say for sure what he'll do.

A good game all around, and I still don't remember a lot of the game, but it was fun, and a great way to end the college football, and the 2005 Texas Football season.

 

[Deepdale]

... A good game all around ... it was fun

Because of unexpected events before kickoff and a few hectic days afterwards, I had to tape it and still have not watched the game. I plan to start within an hour and then will once again have to take a break as the NFL wildcard games begin. It certainly was a very exciting and memorable way to conclude the season. Congrats to your Longhorns.

 

[Bubbasteve]

Brady Quinn Heisman haha sure.

I'm not sure exactly but wasn't he like 5th place for the Heisman this year?

 

[Bubbasteve]

I mean true this is based off of one year, but if Brady Quinn improves (which I'm sure he will), I wouldn't be suprised if he is in Heisman contention next year. According to ESPN.com...

Brady Quinn's
Completions: 292
Attempts: 450
Total Yards: 3919
Completion Percentage: 64.9
YPA: 8.71
TDs: 32
INTs: 7
RAT: 158.40

Vince Young's
Completions: 212
Attempts: 325
Yards: 3036
Completion Percentage: 65.2
TDs: 26
INTs: 10
RAT: 163.95

Chris Leak's
Completions: 235
Attempts: 374
Yards: 2639
Completion Percentage: 62.8
TDs: 20
INTs: 6
RAT: 136.54

 

[adk]

Brady Quinn is going to win the Heisman next year......with that out of the way

1.) Texans - Reggie Bush
2.) Saints - Vince Young/Matt Leinhart (depending if he goes into the draft or not)
3.) Titans - Matt Leinhart (assuming he isn't taken in place for Vince Young)

Yeah that's all I got... personally if I were the Packers or Niners I would draft LenDale White because IMO he is very underrated and that Rosebowl showed it

There's basically no way the Texans can not take Vince Young if he goes pro. He's the newest hero in Texas, born and raised in Houston, not to mention he's the media's newest golden boy. At the very least, Vince Young would put butts in the seats of Reliant Stadium, and we must remember the NFL is first and foremost a business.

The Texans are stupid if they take Bush or Young. They need major help on o-line, David Carr was sacked 68 times! They also need another good receiver opposite Andre Johnson. They also need major help on D. Their problems aren't David Carr or Domanick Davis.

While I agree with you that Houston needs a line, There's no way in hell an offensive lineman is going to go first overall. I'm exaggerating a little bit, but the Texans could draft Reggie Bush and trade him for an entire veteran line.

 

[Bubbasteve]

At the very least, Vince Young would put butts in the seats of Reliant Stadium, and we must remember the NFL is first and foremost a business.

and Reggie Bush isn't? Reggie Bush was and still is considered the most exciting player in college football history... he won the Heisman for a reason. True Vince Young had a great season and he very well might be the thing the Texans need, but don't try and tell me and the rest of the readers that Reggie Bush wouldn't fill those stands.

There's no way in hell an offensive lineman is going to go first overall. I'm exaggerating a little bit, but the Texans could draft Reggie Bush and trade him for an entire veteran line.

True, the Texans probably won't choose an offensive lineman with the number one overall pick...especially since this years draft class is filled with very promising players (i.e. Reggie Bush, Matt Leinhart, possibly Vince Young....Marcus Vick ... okay maybe not Marcus). But why not trade down and get two picks first round? Personally I wouldn't do that because there would be no way I would choose an Offensive Lineman over Reggie Bush... even if my O-line is as bad as the Texan's line is now

 

[G4scott]

The Texans would probably take Bush over Young, and nobody knows for sure if Young is going to go pro yet.

Bush is an electrifying player, and will bring people to Reliant stadium, but the Texans do need an O-line, and may trade their pick for several good players. If they get an offensive line, they won't need a new quarterback, because their current one would be able to step it up, and not have to worry about being sacked every other play.

 

[Mike Teezie]

That was an excellent game. I normally only watch Pro, and I'm really glad I caught that game.

As far as Young coming to the Saints, I would on one hand love to see that happen as it would be nice to see my guys have somebody like that. But on the other hand, I'd be scared that his talent might be wasted.

 

[adk]

The Texans would probably take Bush over Young, and nobody knows for sure if Young is going to go pro yet.

I agree with Tony Kornheiser (of PTI), he called Vince Young the "hometown hero" and said that Houston would have a PR disaster if they didn't take him. The fact is that there's almost too much talent in the draft this year. I sure wouldn't want to be the Texans' GM right now and have to choose.

 

[G4scott]

Well, it's official now that Young is going to the NFL, and I'm guessing he'll go to the Texans. He'd be a 'hometown hero', and would definitely be an asset, but the Texans still need to do something about an o-line.

Wherever he goes, though, I support him and wish him good luck. Heck, if he goes to the Texans, I might go to a few games... It's hard to top being at every game of his best and last season at Texas, but I'll still enjoy watching him play.