Use of the term 'sandwich'

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by swiftaw, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. swiftaw macrumors 603


    Jan 31, 2005
    Omaha, NE, USA
    So, I was watching the tour-de-france today, and here's how the stage ended today

    1. Frank Schleck (Lux/Saxo Bank)
    2. Alberto Contador (Spa/Astana)
    3. Andy Schleck (Lux/Saxo Bank)

    Now, in describing the result, the announcer described it as a Luxembourg Sandwich.

    No, it's not. Surely it's a Spanish Sandwich.

    For some reason this bugs me.
  2. thegoldenmackid macrumors 604


    Dec 29, 2006
    dallas, texas
    I agree, even with weird breads, it's definitely the meat that takes the name. However, the Spanish sandwich makes no sense in this context.

    More importantly, I disagree with the "Lance had nothing for the top group." It was fairly obvious Lance wanted to break away, but was waiting for Wiggins to not be able to keep up.
  3. motulist macrumors 601


    Dec 2, 2003
    I can see it from both sides. Since the argument for the one way has already been made, then let me present the argument for the other way.

    A piece of meat that's not surrounded by 2 pieces of bread is definitely not a sandwich, but two pieces of bread sitting one on top of the other is the fundamental arrangement that creates a sandwich. And the verb "sandwiching" means "to squeeze one different thing between two other similar things". So it seems totally reasonable to talk about the two surrounding objects as being the sandwich.
  4. swiftaw thread starter macrumors 603


    Jan 31, 2005
    Omaha, NE, USA
    Yes, but a piece of ham between two pieces of bread is a Ham Sandwich not a Bread Sandwich.

    If the announcer had said "sandwiched by Luxembourgers" that would have been okay, by not a "Luxembourg Sandwich"
  5. guydude193 macrumors 6502a

    May 15, 2009
    Sometimes people categorize sandwiches by their bread, right? Like a rye-bread sandwich.
  6. Antares macrumors 68000


    Agreed. It's what's in between that makes a sandwich. Contador was sandwiched between two Schlecks. or...Luxemburg was sandwiching Spain.

    For it to be a "Luxembourg Sandwich," you would need Luxembourg in the middle with Spain on each side.

    All this talk of sandwiches is making me hungry. :eek:
  7. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a


    Oct 8, 2008
    I'm not a cannibal, but clearly it's a Spaniard Sandwich.
  8. GfPQqmcRKUvP macrumors 68040


    Sep 29, 2005
  9. matthewscott661 macrumors 6502


    Jun 27, 2009
    I think this is more of a cultural argument than a fundamental one. My grandparents in Indiana always refer to a sandwich by the bread it is made with, because they always use the same meat. I always thought they were odd for doing this, but I do understand it. Maybe the announcer is just odd like my grandparents.
  10. remmy macrumors 6502a

    Jul 1, 2007
    if the commentator said Alberto was in a Spanish sandwich it makes no sense at all.

    if the commentator said Alberto was in a Luxembourg sandwich then it makes sense which is I guess why he explained it like that.
  11. Dagless macrumors Core


    Jan 18, 2005
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    We (my friends and family) aren't exactly strict with our naming schemes. We have ham sandwiches, subs, toasties and all that. I guess it just depends on what the defining part of the sandwich is - be it the meat or the bread, or 3 lovely letters that spell the greatest sandwich of them all... The BLT.

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