flowrider
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It also "kills" the nMP. But not in multiple core aware applications.
In multiple core aware operations the oMP "kills" any iMac.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks
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Used 12-core or late-2013 iMac..hmmm
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It also "kills" the nMP. But not in multiple core aware applications.
In multiple core aware operations the oMP "kills" any iMac.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks
Lou
crjackson2134
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RoastingPig
macrumors 68000
Theres a difference between quiet and silent that the internet has yet to realize. Theres absolutley no way your mac pro is silent..not even close to quiet ...that thing is like a mack truck compared to an imac or macbook...the booster intake fan is to blame i wish i could put some noctua fans in there but you cant
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Some would consider the cMP quite @ IDLE compared to an average PC but it was still too loud for me.
I went ahead and replaced the PS, PCIE, Intake and Exhaust fans with Noctua NF-S12A ULN (Ultra Low Noise) and a temperature based FAN controller. This setup was OK @ IDLE with the fans running between 500-600 rpm but once your put load on the system for more than a few minutes the noise would pick up again.
I guess at the end it comes down to personal preferences. I can't even listen to the sound of 2 - 3 regular HDDs anymore. I decided to trade-in the cMP 12C for a nMP 6C and I am very happy with it. I considered the iMac i7 as well but since I like my 30" ACD I decided to go with a nMP.
I went ahead and replaced the PS, PCIE, Intake and Exhaust fans with Noctua NF-S12A ULN (Ultra Low Noise) and a temperature based FAN controller. This setup was OK @ IDLE with the fans running between 500-600 rpm but once your put load on the system for more than a few minutes the noise would pick up again.
I guess at the end it comes down to personal preferences. I can't even listen to the sound of 2 - 3 regular HDDs anymore. I decided to trade-in the cMP 12C for a nMP 6C and I am very happy with it. I considered the iMac i7 as well but since I like my 30" ACD I decided to go with a nMP.
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imac is all about the future - TB everything
oMP is about expandability and the past - cards - HDD - FW
I use the imac in my sig for ProTools mainly. Would never want my 2009 4,1 MP back.
oMP is about expandability and the past - cards - HDD - FW
I use the imac in my sig for ProTools mainly. Would never want my 2009 4,1 MP back.
flowrider
macrumors 604
Not really. Since the internal components are not up upgradeable, the iMac is all about today. It will be obsolete tomorrow.
Lou
More and more of the peripherals I'm getting are Thunderbolt. I have a cMP, but it is a great source of consternation to me that I can plug them into a Mac Mini or a Macbook Pro, but not a Mac Pro.
Not to mention I haven't bought a new display in a while because my Mac Pro doesn't have Thunderbolt.
Plus the Mac Pro is stuck at slow RAM speeds, and you can't upgrade your way out of that.
Well put. Mac towers tend to far outlast the all-in-one units. And besides, the future of power computing belongs to multicore, not single core processing.
flowrider
macrumors 604
I wasn't commenting on the oMP, though I have one, and yes the lack of TB will be a limiting factor in the future, but one that can be worked around IMO. I was only commenting on the limitations of expandability of the iMac.
While the nMP is also limited in internal expandability, the RAM, Graphics Cards, and CPU can be upgraded if the proper pieces are available in the marketplace.
OWC already has a CPU replacement process in place, and a user with a little skill can currently replace the CPU in the nMP.
Lou
wesk702
macrumors 68000
Lol very true. I've got a nMP, but in this situation I think it would seriously consider the iMac. It's definitely no slouch.
Also the Apple Thunderbolt Display is even more out-of-date than the current 2012 mini, TB1 (like the mini) and USB2 (like in back in the olden days).
With the RAM, there is still the problem of the RAM in the cMP being slower than what you'd find in the iMac.
If all you're interested in is capacity, than the cMP wins. But overall, I'd take the ability to use newer DIMMs in the iMac if performance is what you're concerned about.
CPU has a similar issue. You have a wealth of CPUs to choose from... as long as you don't choose a newer CPU.
The cMP is rapidly degrading to being locked into a wealth of fabulously out of date upgrades. The upgradability of the Mac Pro doesn't really buy you much any more if all the available upgrades are old.
People are even struggling with high end GPUs at this point.
That's true.
I just stuck USB 3.0 in a couple of my oMPs; now I don't feel so obsolete.
It was just about the best $26 I can remember spending, and I don't feel so bad about not having Thunderbolt (not that I ever did).
Sorry for the use of that term.
In my prior post, I mentioned that multiple processor aware apps would benefit from a multi core oMP.
That being said, I have a friend who just bought a new full spec iMac i7 and it is very fast.... 4 cores at 3.5 Ghz.
I'm still on the oMP 12 core and I don't really have a horse in this race.
I was just trying to give the OP the advice that an iMac might be a good choice.
Macsonic
macrumors 68000
My sentiments too. The author of MPG gave his experience after a month of using a 8 core 3.33ghz new Mac Pro together with his experience with the old Mac Pro. The author mentioned though the new Mac Pro is 30+% faster than the old Mac Pro, the speed gains were modest in relation to the huge cost.
http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2014/20140410_1-MacPro2013-experience.html
I put a PCIe SSD, 64GB of RAM and an NVidia card in mine and I'm set to weather the nMP V1 era.
None of the enhancements on the nMP make much of a difference in my line of work, and a lot of my software runs happily on the older OSX variants, but balks at Mavericks. I'd like to get at least a 50% real world gain in performance before raiding the piggy bank again. I'm in a hurry to get my work done, not buy new computers.
I was also glad I didn't buy the initial version of the oMP. They fixed lots of things in the 2,1s.
Macsonic
macrumors 68000
Wow awesome specs. I'm sure your machine will help you with your work for many years. Usually when I am on a tight deadline, stability is important and you have the "itch" to get the job done asap.
Hey, I'm with you. Old tech I can depend on gets the bills paid.
Some day the nMP will be the onMP, Mavericks will be that "Old" reliable operating system and refurbs will be plentiful. As Macs have gotten faster, my days have gotten longer, so what's the difference?