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Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by englishman, Oct 11, 2013.
Will used Mac Pro prices go Up or Down once new ones out?
Been discussed before:
Down as always. Until it becomes ancient and is still in mint condition. Then, it'll sell for crazy amounts.
I don't expect the bottom to fall out of them, but don't expect them to appreciate either. I think the folks that have 5,1 models with dual processors will probably hold the best value, but they were the most expensive when bought new.
Assuming the third-party products like GPUs, etc., don't dry up, they should stay relevant for some time.
I am certainly glad that I purchased mine when I did as the new model lacks several features that are important to me. The internal expansion is important as well as the PCIe slots and the optical bays. It has been my favorite computer that I have owned, and I have owned many.
One concern is the support for Apple displays - I feel the LED Cinema Display is only being manufactured because of the Mac Pro, and that market is probably so small right now they don't move many of the displays. I expect Apple to cut them as soon as the new model is released. I hope the next displays (I expect an iMac-type thin model) will be backward compatible with mini DisplayPort as well as Thunderbolt to support the newer screens.
I look forward to using my Mac Pro every workday and it is a pleasure to use.
I would not recommend buying a computer of any sort as an investment If you need a Mac Pro, buy one. If you don't, invest in something else.
The 1.1 to 3.1 models have gone down in prices while the 4.1, 5.1 BTO models prices only had miminal price cuts.
Down. Always down.
And if anyone says they will go up, I would ask them how many they've bought as an investment to resell.
Agreed, it will always go down, weather or not you like the new Mac Pro it has the latest and greatest technology and the current mac pros are already outdated and long, long over due for this nMP update.
"In economics, investment is the accumulation of newly produced physical entities, such as factories, machinery, houses, and goods inventories."
"In economic theory or in macroeconomics, non-residential fixed investment is the amount purchased per unit time of goods which are not consumed but are to be used for future production"
They aren't displays. They are docking stations with a built in LCD panel. The rest of the docking station would be completely disabled with a DisplayPort only connection. This hope here is that Apple will support a mode which disables a significant chunk of the device as part of some "normal" operational mode . That isn't a standard Apple practice.
There is a large and healthy display market out there will several very capable vendors and products.
The fixed cord LED Display was targeted as much at the laptops as at the Mac Pro. They probably are at significant number of replacements being sold in that roll also. This is actually the device that works in both the Thunderbolt and DisplayPort context. Someone would required using both over time would buy this; not a TB docking station/display.
There may be local bubbles over the short term. The presumption also is that there aren't major hiccups with these new models. Those also could cause some short term bubbles. There are a substantive number of folks who are going to be on the sidelines waiting to see if these make sense or not. If they get spooked by problems, used may not go down much at all.
The EU markets that have been under pressure do the lack of any new Mac Pros for the last 9 months are only place where there would be a extremely low chance of no hiccups at all. Used/Refurb was on only way. Open up multiple streams and prices will change.
My $600 Dell USB 3.0 hub comes with a pixel perfect policy.
I was thinking mainly in terms of picking up a bargain.
I'll wait then and hopefully can pick up on Ebay or somewhere in UK a cheap hex core from someone upgrading.
Or depending on price of base model might get a new one.
2009-2012 model hex core downward pricing is as much impacted by new Mac Pro as Intel discontinuing them.
If looking for discounts, refurbs will probably be out in a month or so after launch. The 2012 refurbs should drop to the discount placed on the 2009-2010 ones now.
Very rarely refurbs in UK
Refurb Mac Pros are not common in Europe and Asias unlike in the US Another option is buying from US sellers that ship internationally though there might be a problem with high taxes.
Just a question. Did Emma Peel that apple before you placed it on John Steed's hat?
It is partially a function of number of Apple stores and local leasing programs. Both of which are likely on the increase in UK. Deals probably won't be constant but they probably will show up.
Right now that is the only way to buy a Mac Pro with "new" warranty from Apple. They should instantly disappear due to demand.
I just picked up a 2006 Mac Pro for $280 on ebay. Quite a bargain imo. Only another $55 to upgrade to 8 cores from 4.
Even though I just got the 3,1 if I come across a 5,1 twin hex really cheap I'll snatch their hands off.
I only wish just over a year ago I'd have kept one of the three twin hex 5,1's I got working with a bailiff firm from a company liquidation, each with a 27" Cinema Display. Unfortunately I needed the profit
They'll be more that I'm sure of but I have no idea when
The answer to your question can be found here, in song format:
The 1,1 & 2,1 are drastically cheaper because they are no longer supported. They do not officially support Mountain Lion and are questionable at the unofficial level. The price jumps substantially once you get back to Mountain Lion capable Mac Pro's.
Yup. I know the 1.1 and 2.1 lack of current OS support. Another factor is they are in abundance being sold in the market plus very little demand. Additionally, the 2008 Mac Pros, which has ML support, are also in abundance and gone down in prices.
In the UK the best place to find a bargain Mac Pro is eBay between mid January and the end of March. Folks offload expensive surplus goods and companies liquidate assets most during that time.