Although this is hardly a new thing, or something that is limited to mac pros, it's more common lately and very heavily concentrated among mac pros that are selling. Is it me or are people trying to push low end, old model mac pros for substantially more than normal prices by loading them up with blatantly pirated software? Low end 2006 mac pros generally sell for pretty low prices. But as of the last couple months, I've seen an explosion of people trying to sell low end 1,1 and 2,1 mac pros for anywhere between 500 to 1000 dollars higher than normal. It's always the same stuff. Toast and the full adobe suite with no CDs, nothing regarding serials or registration. In the past people would just try to dump their old crapped our mice and keyboards on you for extra money but are people really spending this huge premium for pirated bloatware on an old machine or am I late to the party and I've just never noticed a behavior that has always existed?