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Who knows, people are more interested in buying a brand for reasons other then performance. Yet this issue is bad news for them, and personally I don't see how they can talk themselves out of it. My point is that this bad PR may impact people's decision to buy a used iPad (or iPhone). Time will tell however, I think its too soon to say for sure.
Reminds me of the Diesel scam by VW. Will be hard to recover with some users while other will care less.
I don't think so because iPads don't hold value well (compared to iPhones and Macs). Used iPad are already pretty cheap. Also this issue isn't really "mainstream," at least yet. It's geek news so far. The avg iDevice buyer is clueless in this arena. They barely know how to use the device itself. I'm not being snotty saying that, it's just the truth.
If anything it might hurt sales of new units if people think their $500-1200 purchase is going to be throttled in a year's time. I mean my dishwasher cost $500 20 years ago and it still works as well as it did on Day One. But can't say that about a year old iPad now.
If anything it might hurt sales of new units if people think their $500-1200 purchase is going to be throttled in a year's time. I mean my dishwasher cost $500 20 years ago and it still works as well as it did on Day One. But can't say that about a year old iPad now.
Resale value was a big draw. Whether or not you keep it past that point or sell it, it doesn't bode as well. OTOH, if you're giving it to a non-tech person like a kid or relative, then it may not really matter.
I'm not so sure. A MR user posted this was on Washington Post, so it seems it's only a matter of time before mainstream media puts up this news story.
Updates and the adaption rates are too quick. My ipad Air is still on ios8, which works in general, but there are already a couple of games I was going to get, but couldn't b/c they require ios9. Even though data has transferred over just fine (for the most part), I'd rather finish up some games first before taking the chance, as I've already sunk 30 to 40 hours in one.
I'm not disagreeing but its not a motivation for my purchase decisions which is why I sound like I was all over the place
I like the platform and it handles everything I need
That's the most serious issue when taking the approach of staying in an older iOS version. When the majority of apps start requiring higher versions, it really is tempting. It's what made me update - which was my really regretted decision - my iPad 4 to iOS 7. It was advantageous in some way - that's the way I tried to justify it to myself - because I gained a lot of app compatibility.
I now have my 9.7 Pro on iOS 9.3.4 (original version.) I don't have major problems - yet - but I do know they'll come soon. Maybe on iOS 12 it will start bothering me. I'm determined to not be affected by it, but it's a problem that starts being serious in two iOS versions from the one you have. It isn't so terrible on iOS 11 now, but I'm sure it will be soon. (It was worse on iOS 7 compared to iOS 9 than now, at least to me.)
Apple has been raising prices for their products over the last couple of years. This battery management scandal (which is much more than about batteries) is going to stop that in its tracks. The Apple brand is going to have a black eye, it's just a matter of how big and black. Like Maflynn said, there really isn't going to be a way for Apple to talk themselves out of this.
So, I'd imagine the value of Apple products will be effected, not only the used market but also the new market. I'm not exactly going to rush out and buy an Apple product for the next couple of years, that's for sure.
So, I'd imagine the value of Apple products will be effected, not only the used market but also the new market. I'm not exactly going to rush out and buy an Apple product for the next couple of years, that's for sure.
Probably won't be as bad as you expect. My mom's iPhone SE (A9) is on iOS 11 and there's been no noticeable slow down going from iOS 9 -> iOS 10 -> iOS 11. I've also used a 2017 iPad on iOS 11 Beta and that performed pretty good, too. The Air 2 has also handled iOS 8 -> iOS 9 -> iOS 10 remarkably well. Much better compared to previous generations in any case. Really, the only reason we haven't updated the Air 2's at home to iOS 11 is because the new dock and control center would require a little bit of a learning curve. From user feedback, the Air 2's handling iOS 11 just fine.
There's more focus now on power efficiency and not just pure performance. I estimate the A10 Fusion's low power cores are at around A8 level and the A11 Bionic's at around A9 level. I reckon that actually bodes well for A9 longevity (assuming no throttling due to battery degradation). It seems unlikely that newer iOS firmware would require the A10 and A11 to be running full speed all the time.
But the Pro 9.7 is an A9X. Maybe that'll apply to newer iPads than mine. That remains to be seen.
The Pro 9.7 (A9X) has 20% faster CPU and 35% faster GPU than the 2017 iPad 9.7 (A9). Why would it have shorter useful life than the 2017 iPad?
The fact that most tasks run well enough on the A10's and A11's slow cores suggest the A9/A9X will be up to to the task (A8X, too, for that matter). The only problem is if Apple starts throttling iPads based on battery health, too.