User predictions for Apple Prosumer Silicon (M1X, M2 etc.)

[Xiao_Xi]

I can't find the claims related to the disclaimers in footnotes 5-9

You have to change the comparison to find the other footnotes.

 

[EntropyQ3]

Presuming tha the Pro/Max got the GPU core count increase. Maybe not if those dies are stuck on N5P. So wouldn't get the core count bump if Apple is trying to keep the die size about the same on the larger dies. Lots more cores so already going to grow just due to the cores/caches being incrementally larger. That could just blow out the transistor budget increase for the prescribed die size cost constraint.

M2 Pro and Max may not be "long lived" dies. Could be just 10-12 month stop-gaps. Incrementally better "gen 2" laptops that Apple can sell. Not desk CPU/GPU world beaters. If Apple doesn't put a lot of R&D effort into them then they don't have to last long time on the market to recoup costs.

I’m not sure that M2Pro/Max/Ultra, if we assume that they will be similar upscales as the M1 versions, will be manufactured at all. The gains would be modest, the production span of the M1P/M/U chips will be quite short.
I’d argue that it would make more sense to utilize TSMC n3 for the next generation of larger chips since it will go into volume production at the end of this year (ship for revenue in Q1 2023).
It would give better opportunity for tangible benefits.

 

[MayaUser]

So they presented the M2 just for the MBA and the upcoming ipad pro?
mac pro and 14 /16 mbp will be on M3 then?

 

[NJRonbo]

So they presented the M2 just for the MBA and the upcoming ipad pro?
mac pro/ 14 and 16 mbp will be on M3 then?

It's history repeating itself all over again.

When the M1 was introduced it started with two entry-level machines, the 13" Macbook Air and the 13" Macbook Pro

The M1 14" and 16" Macbook Pros followed in the fall.

So, as I said, history repeating itself...

The M2 entry-level 13" Macbook Air and the 13" Macbook Pro just announced

It is expected the M2 14" and 16" pro models will follow in the fall

 

[MayaUser]

It's history repeating itself all over again.

When the M1 was introduced it started with two entry-level machines, the 13" Macbook Air and the 13" Macbook Pro

The M1 14" and 16" Macbook Pros followed in the fall.

So, as I said, history repeating itself...

The M2 entry-level 13" Macbook Air and the 13" Macbook Pro just announced

It is expected the M2 14" and 16" pro models will follow in the fall

i expected that but some users here says that the 14/16" mbp will be on M3 because the gains are not big enough

 

[NJRonbo]

i expected that but some users here says that the 14/16" mbp will be on M3 because the gains are not big enough

Anything is possible, absolutely.

Thing is, will Apple actually announce an M3 chip this year?

If not, will they put off the Macbook Pro models until next year?

As usual, nobody really has any idea what will happen. I am simply laying down what history has dictated though it may mean nothing.

 

[nquinn]

What's the deal with decode not listing VP9 or AV1? On youtube playback I still get pretty efficient power usage (10-12w), but maybe that's just straight up how good the efficiency cores are.

 

[MayaUser]

So it seems .....TSMC to start mass production of new 3nm ‘M2 Pro’ chip later this year

 

[MayaUser]

Anything is possible, absolutely.

Thing is, will Apple actually announce an M3 chip this year?

If not, will they put off the Macbook Pro models until next year?

As usual, nobody really has any idea what will happen. I am simply laying down what history has dictated though it may mean nothing.

So it seems .....TSMC to start mass production of new 3nm ‘M2 Pro’ chip later this year