I have a 2010 13" Mac that I used for 3 years of university in a desktop setup. I had it plugged into a Hengedock the majority of the time connected up to a monitor, so it was closed and tucked out the way. Rarely turned it off and would go over a week without unplugging it sometimes. Never had any battery issues with it. Now sitting on over 900 cycles at just below 80%.
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Using MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015) as a Desktop
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I have a 2010 13" Mac that I used for 3 years of university in a desktop setup. I had it plugged into a Hengedock the majority of the time connected up to a monitor, so it was closed and tucked out the way. Rarely turned it off and would go over a week without unplugging it sometimes. Never had any battery issues with it. Now sitting on over 900 cycles at just below 80%.
I like it very much! It's adjustable so one can position the computer and its screen at exactly the height desired, and the structure of it, with the two supporting "wings" gives the computer a lot of air and room to breathe. It is easy to move, too, but it is heavy and sturdy -- not something I would take with me when traveling. I use something else for that.
I shut my IMac down when not in use so if I was using a MBP as a desktop I would do the same. Why would you guys leave it on ?
My MBP connected to 2 external monitors at home is always plugged in and on
My MBA at work connected to 1 external monitor is always plugged in and on
I might move the Air and take it with me to meetings occasionally
The MBP rarely gets moved any more
But I usually only restart them for updates
And I have no issues with either
Why leave it on? Hmmm
Why turn it off and have to reboot it when I want to use it?
My MBA at work connected to 1 external monitor is always plugged in and on
I might move the Air and take it with me to meetings occasionally
The MBP rarely gets moved any more
But I usually only restart them for updates
And I have no issues with either
Why leave it on? Hmmm
Why turn it off and have to reboot it when I want to use it?
Why leave it on? Hmmm
Why turn it off and have to reboot it when I want to use it?
It takes only 13 seconds to boot up my MBP.
I'm just wondering why peeps leave them on. Is it laziness or something else ?
Why turn it off? Is there some benefit to shutting it down vs just letting it sleep?
Cause I'm not using it. I turn my TV off when I'm not watching it. I shut my car off when I'm not driving it. I turn my guitar amp off when I'm not playing.
Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way ?
Yes I would like to know "shut down" v "re-boot" on a Mac.
On Windows I was always lead to believe one must shut down and unplug! but certainly shut down-
Is there any benefit in a full shut down, on macOS?
thanks
On Windows I was always lead to believe one must shut down and unplug! but certainly shut down-
Is there any benefit in a full shut down, on macOS?
thanks
If your television, car or guitar amp had a built in low power mode that automatically kicked on when not in use for a pre-determined amount of time, would you still turn them off? Frequency of use and other usage patterns are factors here too.
I'm speaking from the perspective of a portable Mac though. I just close the lid when I know I'm not going to use it for a while, that's as close as I get to shutting it down on any kind of a regular basis.
To me it just is common sense to shut down any machine when it is not in use: the computer, the television, the radio, whatever. One benefit of starting it up again (rebooting) is that it refreshes the RAM, which is always helpful. Macs are much more efficient in using RAM than Windows machines (or at least this was true in the past), but even so, a reboot to refresh everything certainly doesn't hurt.
Because the MacBook has a sleep mode that used very very little power. With it in sleep mode, you can just tap the space bar and quickly start using the Mac. There are a lot of times I just want to hop on my Mac real quick to do something like enter a check in my banking app... things like that... and sitting there waiting for it to boot would be frustrating when there really isn't much reason to power down at all.
OP is talking about a 15" rMBP model. Here are the power usage numbers for that model from here
I understand that this thread is about using a rMBP as a desktop, but I'm just speaking from personal experience using my rMBP. I don't know if you're talking about portables or desktops but honestly it doesn't matter.
With my rMBP, if I am not going to use it for half an hour, I'll just let it sleep. If it's going to be an hour or so, I'll close the lid and put it away. If I'm not going to use it for a week, I'll shut it down. I don't shut it down to "clear the RAM," my Mac operates normally without that kind of special treatment.
But honestly, with the desktop PC at home, it will often get left on throughout the day and sometimes shutdown at night. Different people use it throughout the day and it's much more convenient to just let it sleep when not in use instead of shutting it down after each use and then waiting for it to start each time. The amount of current drawn while it is sleeping is pretty minimal.
is "mode" different countries i.e. I think we are 230V in the UK (I should know really)
also agree love the mac powering up when lid lifted
The ratings are a bit different depending on voltage. In the UK you would be looking at that 230 volt column on the right there.
yep, I thought so thank for the informative chart
I have seen this question before but can remember the answer - how does the mac use .33W (in the UK) when off, is it to keep the time and date up to date and does it have a small watch battery for when off long term - to keep date and time.
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Yes exactly. Portables don't have the tiny battery though, they use the main battery.
I am not particularly concerned about electric power consumption.....I can afford to pay my electric bill. I just feel that it's a good idea to turn off my machine completely (whether its a desktop such as an iMac or Mac Mini or a notebook such as my 15" rMBP or my 13" rMBP when I know I will not be using the machine for a while, whether that be overnight or for a few hours. Especially in the summertime, weather conditions can change quickly and I really do not want my machines fried because they were on (even if sleeping) during a violent thunderstorm with lightning that manages to strike in just the wrong place.
Seriously, it only takes a few seconds to get the machine going again,and what's a few seconds? I am still delighted with the difference in speed between my current machines with SSD and my former machines with platter hard drives -- in the old days I'd get the iMac started up, then go into another room to make coffee or do something else.... With the current rMBPs equipped with SSDs, well, they're up and running in nothing flat.
Seriously, it only takes a few seconds to get the machine going again,and what's a few seconds? I am still delighted with the difference in speed between my current machines with SSD and my former machines with platter hard drives -- in the old days I'd get the iMac started up, then go into another room to make coffee or do something else.... With the current rMBPs equipped with SSDs, well, they're up and running in nothing flat.
- Thanks. I've been considering it. Could I get your thoughts on these aspects I've been contemplating? (1) secureness of the height locking mechanism, (2) secureness of the rubber on the "wings" preventing the machine from slipping down, (3) lack of rubber material on the bottom, possibly causing the stand to slide on the desk, and (4) ease of placing the machine in the same spot or at the same angle on the stand considering there are no edges to guide placement.
Thanks!
I don't think it's about laziness or what not. To each his (her) own you know.
Don't see the need to disparage people for having different viewpoint from thou.
actually what gives you the impression that windows need to be shut down and unplug? Pretty sure servers running Windows don't shut down at all actually.
Nobody is stopping me from restarting every so often just to refresh the RAMs anyway? When I feel the MAC is performing sluggish, I'll just restart.
Also I have the impression that, if I use the MAC so frequently on and off, it saves more power leaving it on and letting it sleep than having to turn it on every time when I use it which probably consumes more power by booting it up?
Didn't think I "disparaged people" in any of my reply's.
You did see these comments that I typed right ?
"We all roll differently so it's all good."
"Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way ?"
Any who, I'm trying to use the sleep mode more and maybe leave it on more.
I be open for suggestions YO
Peace
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Unless you're unplugging the computer as well, a lightning strike in the wrong place will damage the computer even if it is off. A surge protector or UPS does nothing in these situations.