Using paint shop pro 9 on an imac?

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  1. qwho macrumors newbie

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    So...I am getting ready to buy an iMac, have used psp for years, have thousands of unmerged images in .psp format as well and countless thousands of tubes, so needless to say I NEED psp on the imac (unless I want to try mass converting everything to .psd format which I understand pixelmator will open, which I do not)

    I understand there are a wealth of options for running psp/windows on an imac. which ones work the best? I am going to try WinOnX app ($4.99) and was going to try vm fusion but not sure if I have to buy windows to use it, same with parallels, plus there is crossover and winebottler and who knows what else.

    I use psp9, so I would love to hear about users of that version that run it on an imac and what program you use to do it, please! and if you needed windows to run it, which version did you use and is it oem or ?

    I do not want to run bootcamp, I want it intergrated into the mac, not have to shut down the computer every time I use psp and then again to use the mac as a mac.

    looking forward to replies on this topic! my biggest reason for not wanting to use a different program is the quantity of images and tubes that use the .psp format...

    TIA!
     
  2. MacDawg macrumors P6

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    IMO your best option is Fusion or Parallels which will allow you to run a virtual Windows machine
    Yes you will need a copy of Windows, probably Windows 7 would be best (but 8 is fine)

    Other options may work, but this is the most stable for you IMO
     
  3. qwho thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks!

    I am hoping to hear from present psp users on an imac, for definitive advice on which program to get, with so many options out there, so that I will know which one will let me use psp 9 and view all the .psp images and tubes for sure
     
  4. chabig, Aug 8, 2014
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    Just because you have images in Paint Shop Pro format doesn't mean you need Paint Shop Pro. All you need is an app that can import and work with Paint Shop Pro files. One such app on the Mac is GraphicConverter. It has been around for years and has great reviews. Check it out.

    I'm not completely familiar with the latest version, but I used it a long time ago. It can batch convert your psp files to Photoshop format, which would be nice. Here is the User Manual.
     
  5. qwho thread starter macrumors newbie

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    My original post said, in part: (unless I want to try mass converting everything to .psd format which I understand pixelmator will open, which I do not)

    Will a batch converter batch convert my main graphics folder which consists at the moment (not including external drives) of 148,061 Files in 2,442 Folders and 37.6 GB, and that is just the start...

    but, thank you, I will check out the program and user manual. PSP itself does batch converting, but I would MUCH rather use psp on the iMac
     
  6. slayerizer macrumors 6502a

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    I would convert them. PSP will not be released on the Mac and running a virtual machine for editing is not practical. You will never get thumbnail preview in Finder if you stick to .PSP.

    I open my images files within several graphic tools and .PSD let me do that.
    You can also use XNView (for Windows, free).

    At least you will get preview and will get rid of the VM need.

    Whatever route you choose, do a backup of the Windows Fonts folder. If you used special fonts you will be glad you took a backup. You can re-install them on the Mac if you need them.
     
  7. qwho thread starter macrumors newbie

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    ---You bring up stuff I had not even thought of yet, Like previews of my files. But if I am running a VM of one sort or another, then I will see them in windows, right?
    as for fonts, I forgot they are windows fonts, but same thing, if I run a VM they can be used with psp in windows. There appear to be lots of options to choose from:
    http://www.macping.com/top-10-windo...t-access-of-windows-applications-on-your-mac/

    Apparently lots of them do not even require an install of windows ...
     
  8. slayerizer macrumors 6502a

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    Virtual box/bootcamp/Parallels/vmware: will give you a VM with Previews inside Windows.

    Applications based around Wine provide an emulation layer for the win32 libraries. This will let you run PSP (if it's compatible) but won't give you any previews at all.

    An app like pixelmator or photoshop use the GPU to apply graphics effects something you may not experience running through a VM.

    I would still vote for the batch images conversion.
     
  9. chabig macrumors 68040

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    There are some pretty amazing graphics apps in the Mac App store, and a lot of them are very inexpensive. By locking yourself into a VM, you might as well not even switch to Mac. By all means, keep copies of your psp files, and use a Windows VM if you absolutely have to, but learn to love the freedom of a Mac, where your images are not locked to any particular app and you have tools upon tools to use.
     
  10. ChrisA macrumors G4

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    There are fewer options then you think

    1) Run a Virtual Machine.
    There are three o there VMWare's Fusion, Parallels and Virtual Box. The last one is free. All of these do about the same thing and YES you need a copy of Windows to run on the virtual machine. This will work and you can Paintshop at the same time as other Mac apps.

    2) Run WINE
    Wine is a software layer that allows running Windows apps on a Mac. It is a software layer that provides the Windows environment. You don't need a copy of Windows. There are several ways to run Wine
    a) Get Wine. It's free
    b) Get Crossover. This is a paid version of Wine that comes with technical sort and a nice Mac-like installer
    c) "bottler" another add-on to Wine/Crossover that is supposed to make it easier to use

    3) Apple's Boot Camp
    This is were you install Windows on the Pac. Yes you need Windows. But it is either/or you boot either Windows or Max OS X.

    Of the three I'd try Wine/Crossover first. It does not always work but when it does it works well and uses the least resources. If it does not work well enough try one of the virtual machines.

    If you own a PC you already have Windows. Fusion has a utility which will convert a PC into a image file. So you can move the entire PC, Windows and all the Windows Apps to the Mac.


    Last: Why would you have to "mass convert" all the files? Just ove then over and each time you open a file you convert it. If you really do have thousands of files I bet most of them you'd NEVER open and use and they can remain un-converted until such time as you need to open them. You convert, one at a time as you need them. The file format is common and many Mac apps will open those file.

    So move the files over but don't bother to convert them.
     
  11. qwho thread starter macrumors newbie

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    wow! I did not know that! my whole pc? (or at least the parts I want to move)

    great idea, as long as I will be able to view them in folders on the iMac like I can on the pc...? If I cannot view them, not converting them is pointless. And I don't know which program or option will allow me to do that.

    thanks for your input. short of hearing from someone who is successfully using psp 9 on their Mac now, that could definitively answer my questions, yours has been the most informative reply.

    oh yeah, and you said:
    from what I understand the .psp or .pspimage is not a common file and other apps cannot open them, unless you meant the photoshop format I will convert to?
     
  12. qwho thread starter macrumors newbie

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    spoke to apple care

    and they told me if it runs on windows 7, it will run on windows 7 VM on an iMac. period. wish it were that simple.
     
  13. qwho thread starter macrumors newbie

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    an update if anyone cares, lol

    I bought the iMac, I am using the trial version of crossover (no copy of windows needed) and psp 9 installed and is working thus far. I am going to try and get plugins to work next. I know there are two .dll files that would normally go into windows system 32 folder, but where would they go on the imac running crossover? they are plugin.dll and msvcrt10.dll

    also, is there a font viewer for macs that previews fonts and allows them to be used in psp without installing? with windows font viewer was great

    thanks
     
  14. CrickettGrrrl macrumors 6502a

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    Congratulations on your new Mac, I hope you're already enjoying using it!

    Yes, your Mac already comes with Font Book, it's in your Applications folder. You can use it to organize your fonts into "collections", including new fonts you've added yourself. In this instance I'd make a new font collection using the + in the bottom left panel and call it something like "My Paint Shop Pro Fonts", then every font you've added for your older PSP files, make sure you also drag the name from the right side column into your new PSP collection in the left side panel.

    Font Book is a data base so it doesn't duplicate the fonts for every collection, just adds tags.

    I'm trying to dig up a terrific blog post with a lot of useful tips about organizing with Font Book, can't find it :( but here is an overview. Since I set up collections like "Grunge fonts", "Girly Handwriting" :eek:, "Ornaments", "Cowboy", etc., it's REALLY saved me a ton of time!

    Here it is :) http://momentummediadesigns.com/blog/?p=211

    If you've downloaded a font and want to preview it before installing, you double-click on it & you'll see a window like this. To actually install, you have to click the lower right button.
     

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