Using The Ipod And Internet Without The Carrier?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by mac17, Jun 24, 2007.

  1. mac17 macrumors regular

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    I am dying to get an iphone but the only thing holding me back from waiting in line this friday is..im stuck with verizon until october this year and if i want to cancel its 175 each line and im in a family plan with 5!(thank god im almost done with them!:D ) i will be switching to att then, is there any way i could possibly get the iphone and use the ipod/internet(thru wifi) until october?
    do you think apple would somehow lock it?:confused:
     
  2. skubish macrumors 68030

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    It seems likely that an exclusive like the iphone will require a contract.
    Initially they said 2 yr, but that has since been removed so who knows now.
     
  3. daveschroeder macrumors 6502

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    No one knows until Friday.

    It appears nearly certain that Apple will sell it unactivated through its own stores and through the online store, with self-activation happening through iTunes. It remains to be seen whether it will be fully functional WITHOUT going through the presumed activation process (except for the phone functionality, of course). Of course, IF iPhone is sold unactivated, but it still "requires" activation to be usable through iTunes, there may also be hacks to get around this.

    But the bottom line is, no one knows until Friday, so this should pretty much be the last post in this thread, as there is nothing more to add.
     
  4. mattscott306 macrumors 68040

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    The issue is the prices listed are with the 2 year contract. So you're expected purchase price without a contract will go up. I'm also not sure that apple nor at&t will sell you an iPhone without you signing up for a plan with them (no contract plan I guess, but a plan non-the-less). So, saying you get the iPhone but don't sign up for a contract, I'm willing to bet the only functionality you'll get is the iPod side of the phone. Not sure if thats worth the $ to you.
     
  5. daveschroeder macrumors 6502

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    Yes, to use it as a phone it will "require" a (two year) contract with AT&T. But see my above post. Nothing is known until this Friday. (And I suppose we could know sooner, but that's when we'll know for sure.)

    100% wrong. The iPhone is UNSUBSIDIZED, and the price without a contract is the same as a price with a contract. This may be moot if the iPhone "requires" a contract to even be usable via iTunes (e.g., for syncing, etc.), but it appears almost certain that Apple will be selling the phone at the normal price, unactivated, and it may very well be that you can use the phone, as-is, with no phone service, for that price. It will NOT be more expensive "without a contract", because it's not subsidized. Granted, neither Apple nor AT&T are expecting it to be purchased that way, but it's true nonetheless.

    This is why I said my first post should be the last one in this thread - because dozens of people will start posting utter garbage and misinformation (like the post to which I am replying), and won't add anything more to the conversation.
     
  6. mattscott306 macrumors 68040

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    Contract is required.

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  7. mac17 thread starter macrumors regular

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    well i do plan on using it as a phone once october rolls around and i can get an at&t contract so if its the same price id pay it, im just dying to get one now even if i can only use it as an ipod until i get a plan.
     
  8. daveschroeder macrumors 6502

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    Yeah, they're saying a contract is "required" (of course) to use it as a phone.

    But since it appears that Apple will sell it unactivated via its own retail stores and online (and use iTunes for self-activation), what remains to be seen is whether the iPhone is essentially a brick until it's "activated", or whether you can use all but the phone functionality.

    So no, a contract may in fact not be "required" by any stretch.

    And, even if the phone is unusable, it looks almost certain that you'll be able to walk out of any Apple store with iPhone with no contract at all.[1] So the usability angle is really the only thing that's in question.

    Also, your first link is an ad that the 2 year contract text has subsequently been REMOVED from, probably because Apple, from a legal perspective, will be selling phones from their own stores WITHOUT a contract. Other news articles saying that a contract is "required" aren't really relevant, because of course it will be required to use it as a phone, and it appears that AT&T corporate stores will make a contract mandatory. But that still doesn't speak to Apple stores and Apple's online store, which will apparently be selling without a contract. So whether the phone is crippled in any way (aside from the phone functionality) before it's "activated" is really all that is unknown yet.

    And before anyone says "Oh, Apple and/or AT&T wouldn't let it be sold that way in a million years", consider that 99% of normal humans will get the phone with a contract through AT&T and actually use it like a sane person, and not be clamoring to get it without a contract.

    [1] This has been discussed repeatedly elsewhere.
     
  9. mac17 thread starter macrumors regular

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    well no one really knows yet Apple did take it off those ads there must be a reason for that.....heres to hoping! :)
     
  10. skubish macrumors 68030

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    Sorry but that is not correct both Apple and ATT have removed any mention of a 2year contract from their sites.

    Do I think there will be a contract requirement...probably. But then why did they change there sites?
     
  11. Le Big Mac macrumors 68020

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    Why not just get the service too? If you're in a family plan, you're paying, what, about $10 for the fifth line? Keep the family plan and your verizon phone. Don't use it. Eat the $40 ($10*4 months), and sign up with AT&T. Port the number over in October if it means a lot to you.
     
  12. yayaba macrumors 6502

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    This sounds like a pretty good plan. Unless you are the main line on the family plan, in which case it's not going to be $10 but more like $40-50.

    $40 over 4 months is chump change if you want an iPhone that badly.
     

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