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jgorman

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Some people have reported problems using their 2020 MBA for certain applications, in particular with video teleconferencing (Zoom or Skype). The cause might be in how it handles combined CPU and GPU work. The CPU works to encode your outgoing video and decode the incoming video, while the GPU works to render each video frame on the screen.

As you can see below, according to Notebookcheck, the 2020 MBA runs the i5 CPU about 78% slower when taxing both the CPU and GPU than when just the CPU is taxed.

1.7 GHz x 4 cores, sustained CPU load using 10W at 100 degrees C in MacOS
0.37 GHz x 4 cores, sustained CPU & GPU load using 10W at 99 degrees C in Windows
CPU runs 78% slower when also using the GPU​

For comparison, the 2019 13-inch MBP (2TB) runs the CPU at half-speed in a similar workload, and the 2019 13-inch MBP (4TB) with its two cooling fans loses only 30% of its CPU performance when the GPU also gets taxed.

3.0 GHz x 4 cores, sustained CPU load using 27-29W at ?? degrees C in MacOS
1.5 GHz x 4 cores, sustained CPU & GPU load using 28W at 87 degrees C in Windows
CPU runs 50% slower when also using the GPU​

3.3 GHz x 4 cores, sustained CPU load using 33 W at ?? degrees C in MacOS
2.3 GHz x 4 cores, sustained CPU & GPU load using 32W at 79 degrees C in Windows
CPU runs 30% slower when also using the GPU​


As a side note, Notebookcheck.net usually runs their CPU and GPU stress tests in Windows, but they note that performance can be better in MacOS, and sometimes they report CPU and GPU stress results in MacOS too. Here are the 16-inch MBP's results.

2019 16-inch MBP i9 45W CPU (with dedicated GPU)​
1.8 GHz x 8 cores, sustained CPU & GPU load using 30W at 78 degrees C in Windows
2.0 GHz x 8 cores, sustained CPU & GPU load using 27W at 82 degrees C in MacOS

Since these processors are different and performance can be better in MacOS, I would not pay too much attention to the raw numbers. Instead, I would focus on the relative performance drops when each model performs combined CPU and GPU workloads, which might explain what is going on with the 2020 MBA and video teleconferencing.
 
There have been a number of folks grousing about i5 heat related issues on these forums and elsewhere. I ordered an i7 MBA and haven't had any heat-related issues in 2+ weeks of daily use.

I was on a 6-way Zoom meeting last night. Earlier in the day I was on an Adobe Connect meeting with ~80 users while connected to an external 32" 4k UHD display and was sifting through Light Room 6 "perpetual" Nikon RAW images that I'm still cleaning up since (of ~18,000 total) upgrading.

No issues at all... keyboard deck was not even warm and fans did not come on.

I also ran it in clamshell mode with BT external keyboard and mouse for 2-3 hours yesterday and again had no issues or fan activity.
 
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I have an i5/16/1tb coming and reports like this have me seriously considering returning for a i7. I dont have the machine yet, so will report back on how the i5 goes. Delivery is on Monday.
 
I have an i5/16/1tb coming and reports like this have me seriously considering returning for a i7. I dont have the machine yet, so will report back on how the i5 goes. Delivery is on Monday.

Reports like what?

I've had a 40 minute seven-participant Zoom meeting with my i5 and it remained cool and silent too.

The only times I hear the fan on my MBA is when I push the CPU with a sustained load such as generating 1000 RAW image previews in Lightroom. In general light usage it remains cool and silent.

I think a big reason folks aren't seeing i7 owners complaining is that those who know their needs well enough to understand why they want the i7 version also likely know their needs well enough to understand what workloads are appropriate for the MBA. Folks with appropriate expectations tend not to complain. :)

Try your i5 for ten days. Keep the lid open and computer awake the first couple days to ensure Spotlight and Photos get all their homework done, as they'll impact your CPU load the first couple days.
 
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That is good to hear, I guess it just seems on the forums that more people have had heat issues with the i5. I should be withholding judgment. It probably stems from what you describe. Thanks for the the calming advice!
 
The I5 and I7 have identical thermals, im using the I5 and have no problem at all. Using it with Xcode and IOS Development
 
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That is good to hear, I guess it just seems on the forums that more people have had heat issues with the i5.

Also way more forum user owns i5, so the sample of reports is also way higher. Have not seen any measured numbers that would suggest i7 is cooler under same load, just subjective perceptions.
 
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