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I dont think what he said its that far fetched.
Even though with appointments sometimes the times run a little later than expected and they might tell you to wait a bit more.
If they didn't have any screens in stock to replace it the Apple rep could have suggested to do it via mail.
Or take his info and they will call him when they get screens in at his store so he can schedule another appointment.
But sending it in via mail with a 2-3 day TA is probably faster.


OP’s experience is really weird isn’t it?! I’ve been to Apple Stores all over the northeast. Not once did they ever give me an estimated time that it would take to see a genius and not once did they ever ask me to mail an Apple Care+ product in for repair. My families broken a lot of iPhones and Apple has always replaced my devices on the spot.
Vibes OP, it’s really odd that all of these things that no one else has ever experienced went so wrong for you! If I hadn’t read your post on MacRumers I would never in a million years believe that one Apple Store would do things so differently than all of the other Apple Stores.
 
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OP’s experience is really weird isn’t it?! I’ve been to Apple Stores all over the northeast. Not once did they ever give me an estimated time that it would take to see a genius and not once did they ever ask me to mail an Apple Care+ product in for repair. My families broken a lot of iPhones and Apple has always replaced my devices on the spot.
Vibes OP, it’s really odd that all of these things that no one else has ever experienced went so wrong for you! If I hadn’t read your post on MacRumers I would never in a million years believe that one Apple Store would do things so differently than all of the other Apple Stores.

I completely agree that OP should call Apple and get it straightened up, and I am 100% sure Apple will do this. He'll be taken care of.

However, to state that because you never had a wait time, means no other Apple store has ever given a customer a wait time and no one else ever experienced it is kind of ridiculous. I have had an over two hour wait before at the longest, and about 10 minutes at the shortest. There is nothing wrong with that - stores get busy. I just hate blanket statements.
 
I completely agree that OP should call Apple and get it straightened up, and I am 100% sure Apple will do this. He'll be taken care of.

However, to state that because you never had a wait time, means no other Apple store has ever given a customer a wait time and no one else ever experienced it is kind of ridiculous. I have had an over two hour wait before at the longest, and about 10 minutes at the shortest. There is nothing wrong with that - stores get busy. I just hate blanket statements.
Re-read what I wrote. Not once did I indicate that I never experienced long wait times. If you’re going to use the “Just because you haven’t experienced it” cliche try make sure it fits the context of the post you’re replying to. I also didn’t state that “no one experienced long wait times”. I shared my experience and never made a single blanket statement - do you know what a blanket statement is? This is a blanket statement “People who use cliches have poor reading comprehension skills”.
 
Re-read what I wrote. Not once did I indicate that I never experienced long wait times. If you’re going to use the “Just because you haven’t experienced it” cliche try make sure it fits the context of the post you’re replying to. I also didn’t state that “no one experienced long wait times”. I shared my experience and never made a single blanket statement - do you know what a blanket statement is? This is a blanket statement “People who use cliches have poor reading comprehension skills”.

I'm referring to this:

Vibes OP, it’s really odd that all of these things that no one else has ever experienced went so wrong for you! If I hadn’t read your post on MacRumers I would never in a million years believe that one Apple Store would do things so differently than all of the other Apple Stores.

On second thought, you are correct. The above statement is 100% true. No one else has ever experienced these things that went wrong for this one person. One Apple store did do things so differently from the others. That wasn't a blanket statement at all. I apologize.
 
I'm referring to this:



On second thought, you are correct. The above statement is 100% true. No one else has ever experienced these things that went wrong for this one person. One Apple store did do things so differently from the others. That wasn't a blanket statement at all. I apologize.

Weird how you quoted an entirely different post. Keep backpeddling. Lulz.
 
Droidbricker, I know I tried to be sarcastic with my last response. Following the conversation, here is what lead me to the conclusion that I arrived to:


Not once did I indicate that I never experienced long wait times. If you’re going to use the “Just because you haven’t experienced it” cliche try make sure it fits the context of the post you’re replying to.

Context:

Pics or it didn't happen.

OP’s experience is really weird isn’t it?! I’ve been to Apple Stores all over the northeast. Not once did they ever give me an estimated time that it would take to see a genius and not once did they ever ask me to mail an Apple Care+ product in for repair.

it’s really odd that all of these things that no one else has ever experienced went so wrong for you

My comment:
However, to state that because you never had a wait time, means no other Apple store has ever given a customer a wait time and no one else ever experienced it is kind of ridiculous.

I feel that context was established and my comment was valid. If you do not, lets just agree to disagree to keep this thread relevant. I am at fault for causing it to go off-track because I already know OP will be fine and my comment doesn't help OP in any way.
 
Droidbricker, I know I tried to be sarcastic with my last response. Following the conversation, here is what lead me to the conclusion that I arrived to:




Context:







My comment:


I feel that context was established and my comment was valid. If you do not, lets just agree to disagree to keep this thread relevant. I am at fault for causing it to go off-track because I already know OP will be fine and my comment doesn't help OP in any way.
K, you still didn’t quote any of those. How would I know what you were responding or replying to since you only quoted one post?
 
Well, got the phone back today from Apple. Screen is STILL CRACKED. Maybe the third time taking it to Apple under AppleCare+ will get it fixed? Here is the YouTube video so I won't be accused of being a liar anymore:

 
Well, got the phone back today from Apple. Screen is STILL CRACKED. Maybe the third time taking it to Apple under AppleCare+ will get it fixed? Here is the YouTube video so I won't be accused of being a liar anymore:


I would hide the SN etc. The crack is clearly visible so that's a huge oversight from whoever who took your case. Send it again after talking to them on the phone so that they keep it on record under your account and this oversight isn't repeated.

Good luck.
 
Well, got the phone back today from Apple. Screen is STILL CRACKED. Maybe the third time taking it to Apple under AppleCare+ will get it fixed? Here is the YouTube video so I won't be accused of being a liar anymore:


Just got off the phone with Apple. He said I did NOT send it in to the Apple repair center and only took it into the store. So I was like "Oh really, would this FedEx tracking number and repair ID be of help?" He immediately back tracked. (I almost wanted to say to him "Wow, do you post at MacRumors with that accusation?" but I didn't, because I have been utterly patient and respectful to the multiple Apple employees I have already interfaced with during this process.)

Then he said the mail in repair center could not repair it because "It was on the Apple Store" to do it because I first brought it in there. He also said the Apple Store mailed it in for me. NOT the case. I had to go home, request a box (which was a BIG ordeal because the Apple Store repair ticket DID prevent me from requesting the online repair at first until I had to contact support an additional time to get that closed), then mail it on my own time.

The best solution he could offer me at this point was to come into the Apple Store on SATURDAY (does not work with my schedule) which is now moved to Monday. The same Apple Store that couldn't fix it due to "not having the parts" to begin with.

Best part of all? I still don't think they've refunded me the deductible I paid for fixing the screen.

Again, UTTERLY disappointed with Apple and AppleCare+ at this point.
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I would hide the SN etc. The crack is clearly visible so that's a huge oversight from whoever who took your case. Send it again after talking to them on the phone so that they keep it on record under your account and this oversight isn't repeated.

Good luck.

No, that's the price of having to get this resolved and bring attention to it. Hopefully, showing the serial number doesn't cause me harm, but it is the only way to backup what I am saying at this point due to Apple not resolving this the first two times.
 
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There’s been a lot of feedback in this thread, including myself asking much earlier why you haven’t tried Express Replacement since you have Apple Care+.

They’ll overnight you a replacement device and then you send back the old one. Could have had one by now.
 
There’s been a lot of feedback in this thread, including myself asking much earlier why you haven’t tried Express Replacement since you have Apple Care+.

They’ll overnight you a replacement device and then you send back the old one. Could have had one by now.

Bro, I had to come home from jogging just to respond to you.

First of all, I had no idea "Express Replacement" existed with my AppleCare+. The multiple Apple employees I have previously spoken with from day one NEVER informed me of this option, and I didn't know about it until I actually came here and was advised of it by non-Apple public forum members. (Sad in itself)

Here we are on October 18th and the last phone rep I spoke to DID have the courtesy to ask me "How I was making the phone call" on the phone. I advised him that I was using my old iPhone 7. He then advised me that I have a replacement phone for now in that I have the iPhone 7.

Still, NO Apple employee I have spoken with thus far has EVER informed of anything called "express replacement". Never heard that term from them at all thus far.

So, in answer to your question, that's why. Never was told this option existed and was told on the last phone call my iPhone 7 is my replacement.
 
I always buy AC+ SOLELY for express replacement. Have not been in an Apple store for 5+ years now since doing this. Overnighted an in plastic new device and ship mine right back.

Stop wasting time in the Apple store. If you have AC+, do Express Replacement. Do not mail it in, do not go to the store.
 
I always buy AC+ SOLELY for express replacement. Have not been in an Apple store for 5+ years now since doing this. Overnighted an in plastic new device and ship mine right back.

Stop wasting time in the Apple store. If you have AC+, do Express Replacement. Do not mail it in, do not go to the store.

How do I do express replacement?
 
How do I do express replacement?
https://getsupport.apple.com/?caller=cupsorc&PRKEYS=

Follow the prompts, sign in, then select the chat option.

Explain what happened, tell them you want Express Replacement. (They do put a hold on your CC but it falls of quickly after you send in old device).

Setting it up today should get you the phone friday at the latest and by Sat the hold should be gone.
 
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https://getsupport.apple.com/?caller=cupsorc&PRKEYS=

Follow the prompts, sign in, then select the chat option.

Explain what happened, tell them you want Express Replacement. (They do put a hold on your CC but it falls of quickly after you send in old device).

Setting it up today should get you the phone friday at the latest and by Sat the hold should be gone.


I appreciate the idea, but that sounds to me like "buy a new iPhone from us and trust us to make you whole later on". After these failures, I do not trust them not to burn me. I am supposed to put near $1000 on my credit card and hope that when I mail it in, everything goes smoothly after what has already happened? No. I cannot afford that. I mean I literally cannot AFFORD that if they were to burn me. As in, I literally have bills that wouldn't be paid. As in, I literally might jeopardize my living situation. I'm not willing to roll the dice and take that kind of gamble on *putting my livelihood in jeopardy over a phone*.

Look, this is not fun for me. I don't like having to spend my days off calling Apple, going to the Apple Store, mailing the phone in, paying deductibles, etc. I don't like having to pay Apple deductibles and walking away with a still cracked screen.

And you know what? I shouldn't be having to do this. If Apple is not prepared, or able, to fix iPhones, then they should not be selling a coverage to people that says they will do that. I'm sorry, but "We don't have the parts" in the store and "We see nothing wrong" when mailing it in are not acceptable outcomes when you are selling such coverage.

If this is happening to me, who else is it happening to that is NOT documenting it? Maybe they are hoping I just give up and walk away so they don't have to fix the screen for $29 under their obligation on AppleCare+.

I, like everyone else, FULLY expected this to be a smooth walk in for my Apple Store appointment and walk out with a fixed phone experience on DAY ONE. Let me say that again - i DID NOT expect this experience from a company like Apple.

And don't for a moment anyone here tell me if you were in my position you would be all smiles at this point. Don't tell me you would have AppleCare+ and expect this kind of experience.

With that said, here is the remainder of my game plan. I will go to the appointment that they scheduled on Monday. When I was there previously, they told me they did NOT have the parts and "had no idea" when they would get them in, which is why I mailed the phone in. If I go in on Monday, and the phone is not fixed, that WILL be documented on video. (No, I will not be recording Apple employees invading their privacy or recording in their store against their rules) But, the video WILL start immediately after walking out of the store.

Then, I will make a FOURTH attempt to mail it in for a repair. That attempt WILL be on video. The video description will include all FedEx tracking numbers, Apple Care repair numbers, and Apple Care repair status pictures on the Apple website incase they were to delete those numbers. Also, any deductibles not refunded to me WILL be documented. If it comes back still broken, I will give up at that point and just pay the high deductible to send it in for repair with Assurion insurance on my cell phone plan.

That experience with Assurion WILL be documented on video. And, I hope for Apple's public relations sake, Assurion doesn't fix it on the first attempt... because this series of YouTube videos won't look at all, and I imagine will be of interest to lots of people. But, if this is what it takes for Apple to fix these problems and meet their obligations under AppleCare+, then their behavior in this matter is on them.

It's sad that this is where we are dealing with a billion dollar tech company that supposedly charges top dollar to avoid situations like this, but here we are.
 
If you don't have a credit card that would support the temporary hold charge just say it.
The rest is just excuses that Apple will rip you off yada yada....
You're acting like it's the end of the world.


I appreciate the idea, but that sounds to me like "buy a new iPhone from us and trust us to make you whole later on". After these failures, I do not trust them not to burn me. I am supposed to put near $1000 on my credit card and hope that when I mail it in, everything goes smoothly after what has already happened? No. I cannot afford that. I mean I literally cannot AFFORD that if they were to burn me. As in, I literally have bills that wouldn't be paid. As in, I literally might jeopardize my living situation. I'm not willing to roll the dice and take that kind of gamble on *putting my livelihood in jeopardy over a phone*.

Look, this is not fun for me. I don't like having to spend my days off calling Apple, going to the Apple Store, mailing the phone in, paying deductibles, etc. I don't like having to pay Apple deductibles and walking away with a still cracked screen.

And you know what? I shouldn't be having to do this. If Apple is not prepared, or able, to fix iPhones, then they should not be selling a coverage to people that says they will do that. I'm sorry, but "We don't have the parts" in the store and "We see nothing wrong" when mailing it in are not acceptable outcomes when you are selling such coverage.

If this is happening to me, who else is it happening to that is NOT documenting it? Maybe they are hoping I just give up and walk away so they don't have to fix the screen for $29 under their obligation on AppleCare+.

I, like everyone else, FULLY expected this to be a smooth walk in for my Apple Store appointment and walk out with a fixed phone experience on DAY ONE. Let me say that again - i DID NOT expect this experience from a company like Apple.

And don't for a moment anyone here tell me if you were in my position you would be all smiles at this point. Don't tell me you would have AppleCare+ and expect this kind of experience.

With that said, here is the remainder of my game plan. I will go to the appointment that they scheduled on Monday. When I was there previously, they told me they did NOT have the parts and "had no idea" when they would get them in, which is why I mailed the phone in. If I go in on Monday, and the phone is not fixed, that WILL be documented on video. (No, I will not be recording Apple employees invading their privacy or recording in their store against their rules) But, the video WILL start immediately after walking out of the store.

Then, I will make a FOURTH attempt to mail it in for a repair. That attempt WILL be on video. The video description will include all FedEx tracking numbers, Apple Care repair numbers, and Apple Care repair status pictures on the Apple website incase they were to delete those numbers. Also, any deductibles not refunded to me WILL be documented. If it comes back still broken, I will give up at that point and just pay the high deductible to send it in for repair with Assurion insurance on my cell phone plan.

That experience with Assurion WILL be documented on video. And, I hope for Apple's public relations sake, Assurion doesn't fix it on the first attempt... because this series of YouTube videos won't look at all, and I imagine will be of interest to lots of people. But, if this is what it takes for Apple to fix these problems and meet their obligations under AppleCare+, then their behavior in this matter is on them.

It's sad that this is where we are dealing with a billion dollar tech company that supposedly charges top dollar to avoid situations like this, but here we are.
 
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Apple express replacement is literally fully complete in max 48 hours. That’s the initial hold on the card, the replacement received, and the hold on the card dropping off almost as soon as your return shipping label is scanned. Very seamless. I’ve done it for holds well over $1000 with no hesitation, especially with Apple.
 
If you don't have a credit card that would support the temporary hold charge just say it.
The rest is just excuses that Apple will rip you off yada yada....
You're acting like it's the end of the world.


It's not the end of the world. Like I said, worst case scenario, a third party will fix it for me.

With that said, I imagine non-Apple Fanboys will find a series of videos documenting the utter failure of Apple to meet their AppleCare obligations to be VERY interesting. If this gets to two failed attempts at the Apple Store and two failed mail-ins, only to be fixed in the end by Assurion, I imagine such a series of videos has potential to go viral rather quickly if they were to hit social media, no? If Apple Support doesn't want to make this situation right, I imagine the Apple Public Relations department will. This never should have even gotten to having to go make attempt three to get this fixed. Hopefully it doesn't go past four attempts.

One way or another, I'll get a fixed iPhone. Either with AppleCare or a third party. Just sucks I have to spend so much time and money doing it.
 
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Bro, I had to come home from jogging just to respond to you.

First of all, I had no idea "Express Replacement" existed with my AppleCare+. The multiple Apple employees I have previously spoken with from day one NEVER informed me of this option, and I didn't know about it until I actually came here and was advised of it by non-Apple public forum members. (Sad in itself)

Here we are on October 18th and the last phone rep I spoke to DID have the courtesy to ask me "How I was making the phone call" on the phone. I advised him that I was using my old iPhone 7. He then advised me that I have a replacement phone for now in that I have the iPhone 7.

Still, NO Apple employee I have spoken with thus far has EVER informed of anything called "express replacement". Never heard that term from them at all thus far.

So, in answer to your question, that's why. Never was told this option existed and was told on the last phone call my iPhone 7 is my replacement.

Lol Bro, I’m trying to help. I’ve had a lot of bad experience too with support - so I can understand where you’re coming from. In fact, I wasted time myself at the store and with phone support and neither suggested Express Replacement. I only learned about it by others sharing the info right here on MR.

Anyway, take advantage of Express Replacement that you have with AC+. Call and just ask for it. It’s the easiest solution. You receive the replacement phone, and you send back your old one.

Edit: Actually, I forgot it’s a cracked screen for which a replacement screen is $29. Express Replacement is likely ~$99 to replace the device if there’s more damage than just the screen. I’d go the store route in that situation.
 
Actually, rather than reading the advice from strangers in here, read the documentation of your Apple Care, that will tell you what you are supposed to do. Something i assumed you paid for but did not bother to read.

Ok, it says I can take it into the Apple Store or mail it. I've done both.

Ok, I did what it said to do. Now what?
 
Ok, it says I can take it into the Apple Store or mail it. I've done both.

Ok, I did what it said to do. Now what?

I am sure the Apple Care document also details what you do when there is a dispute. You clearly are not happy with the service you've received from Apple. The document should give details on what you should do in such situations.
 
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I am sure the Apple Care document also details what you do when there is a dispute. You clearly are not happy with the service you've received from Apple. The document should give details on what you should do in such situations.

I'm sure you'd like it if I sat down and wrote letters to corporate (that would go nowhere) rather than make public what is going on, because that would protect the image of your favorite company, right? You know full well this is gross incompetence on Apple's part, and I'm not even going to entertain this suggestion. No reasonable person would see a phone with a cracked display like that and argue it somehow is not a covered issued under AppleCare+ and that at this point is WELL below the service commitment of Apple under the terms of the service plan they are selling.
 
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