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Vacation Blackout Hints at Late July Release for OS X Mountain Lion
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new iMacs + mac minis supplementing the mountain lion release. Similar to last year. You heard it from me.
Yes, probably company doesn't know much more than something might be happening around that time so are playing safe. Thought it might be new hardware at first, but that doesn't really figure to me. If you're going to gear up to do hardware support, then the time to do that would be when the (presumably expert) early adopters are done and the regular folks start taking them up, at least a month after launch.
I wouldn't have minded paying $20 for Mountain Lion on my new Retina MPB. But, since it's free, it really is a savings.
I think Apple holds a patent on defying critics' expectations.
I need to buy a new Macbook Air for school, but is there any advantage (performance-wise) to waiting until the MBA ships native with Mountain Lion pre-installed? I had a really bad experience "upgrading" from Tiger to Leopard. Things were really twitchy and laggy afterward. I'd hate for a new computer to behave the same way.
Not really, its the same hardware. You can just use lion for now, and when mountain lion ships make a backup and perform a clean install. I would suggest you make a traditional copy and paste backup rather than a time machine backup.
If it's ML, I'm not looking forward to all the people who get the first version of a new OS and then whine about glitches.
I'm excited to see what ML has to offer but I'll still wait for 10.8.1 or 10.8.2.
Cheers!
I'm excited to see what ML has to offer but I'll still wait for 10.8.1 or 10.8.2.
Cheers!
If it's ML, I'm not looking forward to all the people who get the first version of a new OS and then whine about glitches.
I'm excited to see what ML has to offer but I'll still wait for 10.8.1 or 10.8.2.
Cheers!
I upgraded to Lion within minutes of it coming out. Had no problems except I missed Expose. One of these days, I am going to get nailed for upgrading so quickly.
Rosetta Support??
Will Apple bring back Rosetta support in Mountain Lion? This has been a big bummer for me and the place where I work, we have thousands of files in AppleWorks format and still running Snow Leopard so we can run AppleWorks. We really need that support, and I can't believe Apple totally yanked it like this in Lion -- The technology is there to fully support it, and there still are many PowerPC apps that have no intel versions, because they aren't supported.
Will Apple bring back Rosetta support in Mountain Lion? This has been a big bummer for me and the place where I work, we have thousands of files in AppleWorks format and still running Snow Leopard so we can run AppleWorks. We really need that support, and I can't believe Apple totally yanked it like this in Lion -- The technology is there to fully support it, and there still are many PowerPC apps that have no intel versions, because they aren't supported.
AppleCare is partly run by Apple and partly through third party call centers. When a new product or OS is released, the call center staff begins training on the important parts of it THAT MORNING. Training modules on announced features gets done a day or two early, while the unannounced stuff gets its own module that day.
Staff is needed to man the phones, while other staff get up to speed.
Also, the call centers escalate urgent or widespread issues to Apple engineering for immediate treatment (things like boot to black, kernel panics, login issues, etc.). The night of a product launch is about the only time Engineering staff are available on call to tier 2 tech support. Any other times, tier 2 makes a request via a web based form and they'll get a terse reply back within 3-7 days. During the day of a launch, engineers are on call.
All that takes time and it takes lots and lots of manpower.
Staff is needed to man the phones, while other staff get up to speed.
Also, the call centers escalate urgent or widespread issues to Apple engineering for immediate treatment (things like boot to black, kernel panics, login issues, etc.). The night of a product launch is about the only time Engineering staff are available on call to tier 2 tech support. Any other times, tier 2 makes a request via a web based form and they'll get a terse reply back within 3-7 days. During the day of a launch, engineers are on call.
All that takes time and it takes lots and lots of manpower.
I have a question.
I just got my rMBP so do I get a free upgrade or would I have to pay another 20.00 for it? Forgot to ask the rep.
New to all of this. Thank you!
I just got my rMBP so do I get a free upgrade or would I have to pay another 20.00 for it? Forgot to ask the rep.
New to all of this. Thank you!
"All hands on deck" sheesh it's not like ML is a redesigned OS X. It looks and feels just like OS X Lion, Snow Leopard.
Looking forward to the ML release, a nice little spec bump.
It seems to me that Apple are no longer in the business of providing "operating" systems rather than ecosystems. Environments in which we live, drive and survive, using those systems to source our music, films and software. The benefits of upgrading to ML are similar to those of upgrading from iOS 5 to iOS 6, they fall mainly on Apple Incs side. With a better ecosystem, users will spend more of their money via their stores.
With that in mind why is a spec bump on my phone free and a spec bump for my Macs $20?
Mac owners are the evangelists of the Apple world, sure we derive a benefit from the upgrade but we will go on and tell the world to dump their Windows machines. Why do we have to tolerate being treated in such a fashion? Apple knows full well that those who cough up will go on to spend more money via the online stores. I suggest that the upgrade should be free of charge, and that charging the faithful $20 because they will pay is immoral.
This situation is not similar to the windows upgrade which I am sure will cost an awful lot more. Microsoft do not have an ecosystem which directs users to their stores. They have costs, they earn revenue from the sale of their platform. Apple's revenue from sales of the ML upgrade will be tiny in relation to income from their store businesses.
Perhaps Apple are sensible of this and have planned a blackout for all of those Mac users who have just learned their upgrade will be free and want to say thank you.
It seems to me that Apple are no longer in the business of providing "operating" systems rather than ecosystems. Environments in which we live, drive and survive, using those systems to source our music, films and software. The benefits of upgrading to ML are similar to those of upgrading from iOS 5 to iOS 6, they fall mainly on Apple Incs side. With a better ecosystem, users will spend more of their money via their stores.
With that in mind why is a spec bump on my phone free and a spec bump for my Macs $20?
Mac owners are the evangelists of the Apple world, sure we derive a benefit from the upgrade but we will go on and tell the world to dump their Windows machines. Why do we have to tolerate being treated in such a fashion? Apple knows full well that those who cough up will go on to spend more money via the online stores. I suggest that the upgrade should be free of charge, and that charging the faithful $20 because they will pay is immoral.
This situation is not similar to the windows upgrade which I am sure will cost an awful lot more. Microsoft do not have an ecosystem which directs users to their stores. They have costs, they earn revenue from the sale of their platform. Apple's revenue from sales of the ML upgrade will be tiny in relation to income from their store businesses.
Perhaps Apple are sensible of this and have planned a blackout for all of those Mac users who have just learned their upgrade will be free and want to say thank you.
No, it's not going to come back. Ever. Probably best to get some kind of plan in place to migrate those files to a different format.
Same goes for PPC apps, best start looking for replacements.
Not sure why you didn't start thinking about this a year ago when Lion was released though.
Looking Forward
There were so many weird things people were saying about Lion that I just stayed on SL. Then last week I got my new MacBook Pro with Lion. Maybe it's just because it's 10.7.4 and not 10.7.0 but I like Lion a lot. Now, I can't wait until ML comes out.
There were so many weird things people were saying about Lion that I just stayed on SL. Then last week I got my new MacBook Pro with Lion. Maybe it's just because it's 10.7.4 and not 10.7.0 but I like Lion a lot. Now, I can't wait until ML comes out.
Here is an interesting pattern some might want to note.
Apple "all hands meeting" sometime between Feb22-Feb25
Ipad 3 launch date March 7th.
Apple "all hands meeting" May 22nd.
rMBP launch date June 11th.
Apple "all hands meeting" June 24th
iMac launch date ??July??(with or prior to an already announced OS update)
All this talk of "apple doesn't hold all hands meeting prior to product launch" is complete bologna.
Apple "all hands meeting" sometime between Feb22-Feb25
Ipad 3 launch date March 7th.
Apple "all hands meeting" May 22nd.
rMBP launch date June 11th.
Apple "all hands meeting" June 24th
iMac launch date ??July??(with or prior to an already announced OS update)
All this talk of "apple doesn't hold all hands meeting prior to product launch" is complete bologna.