Value of 1996 Power Mac 7300/200?

[Radiomarko]

My advice with these things and the CRT monitors, having aging brittle plastics etc is that shipping is a killer for them, the Mac itself will suffer loosening of any extension boards and connectors, screw posts may shear.

The CRT will, at best, have it's tube coils shifted slightly that will unfocus or misalign the image. At worst the CRT will break.

You'll then have a refund/return problem. If the buyer is local, deliver it yourself - very slowly and carefully!

I have a garage full of vintage Apples & Macs I have owned that are simply not worth selling and shipping other than as " spares or repairs"

 

[rwh63]

Looks like it’s running Mac OS 8.6

8.1?

 

[rwh63]

My advice with these things and the CRT monitors, having aging brittle plastics etc is that shipping is a killer for them, the Mac itself will suffer loosening of any extension boards and connectors, screw posts may shear.

The CRT will, at best, have it's tube coils shifted slightly that will unfocus or misalign the image. At worst the CRT will break.

You'll then have a refund/return problem. If the buyer is local, deliver it yourself - very slowly and carefully!

I have a garage full of vintage Apples & Macs I have owned that are simply not worth selling and shipping other than as " spares or repairs"

thanks for that insight.

 

[rwh63]

The stock optical drive is a CD-ROM, so... no. You could try networking it with another Mac, or temporarily hooking up the hard drive to another Mac to save the data you want to preserve.

gonna have to dig up a floppy then.

 

[Macbookprodude]

8.1?

8.1 wouldn’t even run on a G4 though.

 

[Amethyst1]

8.1 wouldn’t even run on a G4 though.

The 7300 doesn't have a G4, so...

 

[rwh63]

update: in case anyone is interested, i was able to sell the complete package for $500 shipped. the shipping will be a little challenge, in part because it is going from MA to CA. most likely ship the monitor separate. thx to everyone for your interest in this thread.

 

[ahurst]

update: in case anyone is interested, i was able to re entry sell the complete package for $500 shipped. the shipping will be a little challenge, in part because it is going from MA to CA. most likely ship the monitor separate. thx to everyone for your interest in this thread.

Holy heck, $500 USD for a non-pristine 7300? I guess if I ever pick up a heroin habit my thing for saving machines from the e-waste will be able to fund it.

Nicely done, OP.

 

[velocityg4]

Holy heck, $500 USD for a non-pristine 7300? I guess if I ever pick up a heroin habit my thing for saving machines from the e-waste will be able to fund it.

Nicely done, OP.

In that case. Rescue any formerly high end 19+" CRT. Such as the higher end Mitsubishi, Radius and Sony. Those can be worth a lot. Like a 22" Mitsubishi Diamond Pro sold recently for $1,000 after you include shipping. The rare flat front widescreen ones can be worth a lot more.

I think it's because they aren't just sought by collectors. But there's a subset of gamers who think CRT are the Bee's Knees when it comes to gaming.

Edit: Also SCSI scanners and external SCSI drives. The SCSI drives aren't worth tons. Unless it's some special model. But they are small and go for $50 to $100 a pop.

update: in case anyone is interested, i was able to re entry sell the complete package for $500 shipped. the shipping will be a little challenge, in part because it is going from MA to CA. most likely ship the monitor separate. thx to everyone for your interest in this thread.

Packing. Lots and lots of packing material. That monitor needs to be supported by a thick cushion. The material also needs to not shift out of the way. Given the price and how much shipping will cost you. I'd say it is worth going to a craft store or fabric warehouse. Then buy high density foam to pack it.

 

[AlumaMac]

update: in case anyone is interested, i was able to re entry sell the complete package for $500 shipped. the shipping will be a little challenge, in part because it is going from MA to CA. most likely ship the monitor separate. thx to everyone for your interest in this thread.

I’d advise you double box the monitor along with the packing suggestions from velocityg4. Just a word of caution I had UPS destroy 2 monitors on 2 separate occasions and then deny my insurance claim.

Holy heck, $500 USD for a non-pristine 7300? I guess if I ever pick up a heroin habit my thing for saving machines from the e-waste will be able to fund it.

Nicely done, OP.

There definitely seems to be an uptick in prices recently.

 

[ahurst]

In that case. Rescue any formerly high end 19+" CRT. Such as the higher end Mitsubishi, Radius and Sony. Those can be worth a lot. Like a 22" Mitsubishi Diamond Pro sold recently for $1,000 after you include shipping. The rare flat front widescreen ones can be worth a lot more.

I think it's because they aren't just sought by collectors. But there's a subset of gamers who think CRT are the Bee's Knees when it comes to gaming.

That's wild to me, especially because of how temperamental CRTs get with age (failing flyback transformers, messed up geometry, concerning electrical noises, etc). Like, I get that a high-end Sony CRT is a good find, but how are people still paying that much when it's a gamble whether it'll be half-dead (or damaged in transit) on arrival? Especially when repairs aren't as straightforward as computers and parts are unobtanium. My old lab has quite a few old CRTs in storage (some Apple, some generic), but I'd be amazed if any of them would fetch anything like that.

I wonder if "CRT Repair Specialist" is going to become a highly-lucrative field over the next decade, like people who can maintain legacy COBOL code...

Edit: Also SCSI scanners and external SCSI drives. The SCSI drives aren't worth tons. Unless it's some special model. But they are small and go for $50 to $100 a pop.

I actually snagged an Apple SCSI Color OneScanner from the e-waste a few years back. I had to fiddle with drivers on my 6100 for a bit, but it works! Apart from the novelty I'm amazed they're sought-after, though. Then again, I was kicking myself for days when I didn't set aside a LaserWriter SC fast enough and it got taken by the e-Waste crew (I thought with my scanner and Quadra I could have a full early 90's office setup), so maybe I understand it better than I think.

 

[velocityg4]

That's wild to me, especially because of how temperamental CRTs get with age (failing flyback transformers, messed up geometry, concerning electrical noises, etc). Like, I get that a high-end Sony CRT is a good find, but how are people still paying that much when it's a gamble whether it'll be half-dead (or damaged in transit) on arrival? Especially when repairs aren't as straightforward as computers and parts are unobtanium. My old lab has quite a few old CRTs in storage (some Apple, some generic), but I'd be amazed if any of them would fetch anything like that.

I wonder if "CRT Repair Specialist" is going to become a highly-lucrative field over the next decade, like people who can maintain legacy COBOL code...


I actually snagged an Apple SCSI Color OneScanner from the e-waste a few years back. I had to fiddle with drivers on my 6100 for a bit, but it works! Apart from the novelty I'm amazed they're sought-after, though. Then again, I was kicking myself for days when I didn't set aside a LaserWriter SC fast enough and it got taken by the e-Waste crew (I thought with my scanner and Quadra I could have a full early 90's office setup), so maybe I understand it better than I think.

It's just rarity. Like any other collectible. Back in the day. Most people bought junk CRT. Because they cost a lot less. Sure, if it was just that. There'd be tons of them still.

However, from let's say 2005 to 2015. CRT were completely worthless (ie cost more to ship than worth). No one wanted to keep them or use them anymore. So, they bought an LCD and tossed the CRT in the trash. Whether it was a fancy one or not. Making the already unusual high end model even rarer.

The widescreen CRT is a real oddity. As by then LCD prices already came down a lot. So, most buyers of a higher priced monitor would have bought LCD. Making that especially rare.

All that really got saved were markets that already had collectors. Apple, Amiga, Commodore, IBM, &c. You don't see many collectors of Mitsubishi or Sony computer parts. Now that there's been a huge increase in collecting vintage computer parts. People realized that their 80's/90's computer looks absurd hooked to an LCD. They want a CRT and one the best of the era. If they can afford it.

Even since 2020. (Sold) Prices of this stuff has gone up a lot. At least some of my vintage Macs are worth more now broken. Than they were worth working in 2020.

This market's also weird. Like local prices can be a lot lower than eBay sold prices. So, I see posts a lot on r/vintageapple of all sorts of amazing (to me) prices. Also people really into it. Go to community recycling days and recycling centers to pick them.

 

[Amethyst1]

The widescreen CRT is a real oddity.

If you’re talking about the Sony GDM-FW900, it still predated affordable decent high-res widescreen LCDs by a few years and was absolute high-end. Those who got one in the day most likely didn’t want an LCD and had good reasons for that.

 

[velocityg4]

If you’re talking about the Sony GDM-FW900, it still predated affordable decent widescreen LCDs by a few years and was absolute high-end. Those who got one in the day most likely didn’t want an LCD.

That's why I'm saying it's an oddity. In terms of rarity. At $2,000 and a CRT. It was really a nitch market by late 2003. Those who cared about color or response time. Most people who blew that much on a monitor bought an LCD. As most LCD were cheaper by then. So, there's few of them around now. Sending the price through the roof.

 

[Amethyst1]

At $2,000 and a CRT. It was really a nitch market by late 2003. Those who cared about color or response time. Most people who blew that much on a monitor bought an LCD. As most LCD were cheaper by then.

I don’t think 1920×1200 IPS LCDs were cheaper than two grand in 2003. And I don’t consider lower-res LCDs competition to the ‘900.

 

[velocityg4]

I don’t think 1920×1200 IPS LCDs were cheaper than two grand in 2003. And I don’t consider lower-res LCDs to be valid competition to the ‘900.

I'm just going by what consumers went for. Not what is technically superior. I chose my Mitsubishi Diamond CRT 19" back in the day. Because of how nice it was. When I could've got some junker Viewsonic LCD for the same price. But most people didn't make that choice when it was LCD or CRT for the same price. Way back then LCD monitors and TVs were the hot tech. Except for those who understood the limitations of LCD and what a good CRT offered. CRT were just seen as cheap junk you could pick up for next to nothing. Even most who knew the limitations. Still opted for LCD as 20"+ CRT were huge. They took up a massive amount of desk space.

Anyways, in December 2003. ClubMac was selling the Apple 23" LCD Cinema HD Display for $1,994 (Macworld Magazine December 2003). So, at that time. You could get the Sony 24" CRT or Apple's 23" LCD (1920x1200) for roughly the same price.

 

[Amethyst1]

Anyways, in December 2003. ClubMac was selling the Apple 23" LCD Cinema HD Display for $1,994 (Macworld Magazine December 2003). So, at that time. You could get the Sony 24" CRT or Apple's 23" LCD (1920x1200) for roughly the same price.

Touché. Thanks for the heads-up.

 

[rwh63]

i don't want people to think i'm making this up, so you can check out the item numbers on ebay, which is were i sold these items: 275156949089 and 275157036891.

i already shipped the PC and keyboard/mouse. the monitor will be a little more challenging. i am shipping with insurance in case of damage. like all of my electronics, i pick up all sorts of packaging supplies free at my towns dump. look for heavy cardboard boxes and rigid foam. so much stuff being discarded. i have recovered many awesome flatscreen tv's (plasma and lcd, high end). one is a fujitsu 42" wide plasma display, made in japan model P42hha30wa. retailed for $7k back then!

a lot of CRT's also show up. very heavy though. did grab one nice sony 27". i believe you have to look for the non-hd CRT models.

also grabbed two nice ariens snowblowers (for those in the snow belt!).

 

[rwh63]

Power pc packing.

 

[rwh63]

shipping the monitor now. itself weighs about 34 lbs. total packed weight is about 37 lbs. double boxes with some rigid foam. no movement. heavily stickered with "delicate CRT". fed ex home delivery.

 

[rwh63]

Monitor has shipped. I will know outcome in about a week. Fingers crossed.

 

[velocityg4]

i don't want people to think i'm making this up, so you can check out the item numbers on ebay, which is were i sold these items: 275156949089 and 275157036891.

i already shipped the PC and keyboard/mouse. the monitor will be a little more challenging. i am shipping with insurance in case of damage. like all of my electronics, i pick up all sorts of packaging supplies free at my towns dump. look for heavy cardboard boxes and rigid foam. so much stuff being discarded. i have recovered many awesome flatscreen tv's (plasma and lcd, high end). one is a fujitsu 42" wide plasma display, made in japan model P42hha30wa. retailed for $7k back then!

a lot of CRT's also show up. very heavy though. did grab one nice sony 27". i believe you have to look for the non-hd CRT models.

also grabbed two nice ariens snowblowers (for those in the snow belt!).

I didn't think dumps allowed people to pick any more. The one I go to has a strict policy against it. For one thing they don't want people dawdling. As you already have to sit in line over an hour. Also the dump area is separate from the landfill. So, they constantly have bulldozers and backhoes moving the trash pile to trucks to the landfill area.

 

[rwh63]

I didn't think dumps allowed people to pick any more. The one I go to has a strict policy against it. For one thing they don't want people dawdling. As you already have to sit in line over an hour. Also the dump area is separate from the landfill. So, they constantly have bulldozers and backhoes moving the trash pile to trucks to the landfill area.

This is a transfer station, not a landfill. Picking is encouraged!