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I recently switched from ATT to Verizon in order to take advantage of their unlimited deal but I will have to admit I'm a bit disappointed. I find the coverage in Washington DC not as good as claimed - I'm constantly at one or two dots (bars) and I find speeds can be slow pretty slow.

Anyone else experience the same in DC with Verizon? Is the Verizon 7+ known to have reception issues?

I like the cost of the plan, but the quality of service so far is lagging.
 
I recently switched from ATT to Verizon in order to take advantage of their unlimited deal but I will have to admit I'm a bit disappointed. I find the coverage in Washington DC not as good as claimed - I'm constantly at one or two dots (bars) and I find speeds can be slow pretty slow.

Anyone else experience the same in DC with Verizon? Is the Verizon 7+ known to have reception issues?

I like the cost of the plan, but the quality of service so far is lagging.

I live near Baltimore, but will be in DC Friday and will let you know. I have a 7 Plus on Verizon (factory unlocked) that I may be returning for other reasons but will be using it until Monday at least. I only get 1 bar in my house but have never lost service or reception. I've heard that the bars are not a great indicator of reception. Speeds have always been good on Verizon for me.
 
Interesting. Sad to hear that b/c I was thinking of going over to them. I always assumed Verizon was tops in DC. But the big bonus is being able to use your phone on the Metro. I've never had VZW myself. Up until recently I was with ATT since '07. I switched to TMob a few months ago and initially I thought it was great but it's turned into a disaster. Some Metro stations I can't get any data reception at all. I still don't like ATT but it seems they do have a great network here. Never had any real problems except maybe Nats Park but then who doesn't have issues in a crowed stadium. Maybe I'll go over to a pre-paid carrier that uses ATT.
 
Interesting. Sad to hear that b/c I was thinking of going over to them. I always assumed Verizon was tops in DC. But the big bonus is being able to use your phone on the Metro. I've never had VZW myself. Up until recently I was with ATT since '07. I switched to TMob a few months ago and initially I thought it was great but it's turned into a disaster. Some Metro stations I can't get any data reception at all. I still don't like ATT but it seems they do have a great network here. Never had any real problems except maybe Nats Park but then who doesn't have issues in a crowed stadium. Maybe I'll go over to a pre-paid carrier that uses ATT.

I was under the same assumption. I thought VZW was the best in the DC area. I will admit the voice calls are a lot more stable with VZW since I switched but I find the data flaky and not as fast as I anticipated. ATT was much better in that regard. Also I find the wifi calling on VZW much better than when I had ATT.
 
Same here. I switched and also agree that speeds are really slow with Verizon, and coverage is a bit choppy. My calls break up a lot more. I wish I could leave them, but looks like I am stuck for 2 years.
 
T-Mobile uses Band 4 (Primary), Band 12 (New-Primary), and Band 2 (Rural areas)

Most likely with T-Mobile, you'll be on B4 90% of the time. B12 is still being deployed, and even then you only connect to it if you can't get B4 signal (building penetration)


Verizon is Band 13 (Primary), Band 4 (Secondary), and Band 2 (Rural areas)

B13 is pretty congested for Verizon, so a lot of them are being forwarded over to B4 when they can.


AT&T is Band 17 (Primary), Band 4 (Secondary), Band 2 (Secondary), Band 5 (Rural), Band 29 (New-Secondary), Band 30 (New-Primary).


AT&T's B17 is pretty congested as well, so they're trying to get people on B4/B2 when they can. Also, B29 is a download-only link (with a similar penetration as B17), and that's not in all areas either. B30 is new, a bit higher frequency (2300), but would help in dense areas.


The way AT&T and VZW started off LTE, they used low-band (700b/c)(B17/B13). This had a great advantage w/ building penetration (the lower the more penetration). T-Mobile started with a higher band B4 (1700/2100), good for speed, but not for long-distances or building penetration. However, AT&T and VZW devices are so saturated with 700 that their speeds are suffering, hence why they are trying to alleviate load with the other bands (primarily B2/B4). AT&T interestingly has a lot of bands to juggle as well, with B29 (700d) for download, and B30 (2300) for new-primary.


T-Mobile finally got in the low-band game most recently with B12 (700a), but still has a bit of catching up to do.

So technically a B2/B4 phone works on all 3 carriers (AT&T/VZW/T-Mobile), although B2/B4 is only secondary for AT&T/VZW. T-Mobile benefits the most since B4 is T-Mo's primary. If you're in a large metropolitan city (probably top 50 cities in the US), AT&T and VZW probably deployed B2/B4 to help alleviate the congestion on their B13/B17 bands, so most likely you'd connect to B2/B4 if you had AT&T/VZW in these large cities.
 
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Just an update - I am currently in DC and my coverage has been fine. Speeds are fast, and I'm even in the lower level of Medstar Washington Hospital Center with no issues.
 
I will say the Verizon coverage for me has improved the past few days. Hoping it continues...
 
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