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Can we please stop calling it the iPhone 5? It's either the iPhone 6, iPhone 4GS, iPhone 4ST (T = Tall) or iPhone XL. iPhone 5 makes NO sense and would just cause all kinds of confusion.

Customer walks into the AT&T Wireless store and says he wants to buy an iPhone. Associate walks up to him and says, "Okay, here are your choices: the new iPhone 6, the iPhone 4S, and the iPhone 4."

Customer's response:

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If there is one thing I am certain of, it will not be called the iPhone 6.
 
Can we please stop calling it the iPhone 5? It's either the iPhone 6, iPhone 4GS, iPhone 4ST (T = Tall) or iPhone XL. iPhone 5 makes NO sense and would just cause all kinds of confusion.

They can also do what they did with the new iPad and call it iPhone?

I think Apple needs to start coming up with a standard date, first it was June, now October, now no one knows
 
Another release date speculation comes from know your mobile and hints towards August 7th
No idea how reliable the site is, but i thought i'd share it anyway.

That's been rebuffed over And again for numerous reasons: credibility & track record of source, lack of smoke for that fire, Apple's new alleged product cycle, and lack of new IOS (just to name a few).

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should be released on the day Steve Jobs passed last year, Oct. 5

What a horrible idea: "Hey guys, we're super depressed today, so what better way to get excited about a new product and a new IOS than to think about SJ dying!"
 
Can we please stop calling it the iPhone 5? It's either the iPhone 6, iPhone 4GS, iPhone 4ST (T = Tall) or iPhone XL. iPhone 5 makes NO sense and would just cause all kinds of confusion.

Even though iPhone 5 doesn't make sense (because it isn't the 5th iPhone), I think it would cause the least confusion to consumers. There is substantial evidence for this too; all of the rumors are calling it the iPhone 5. Also, go and talk with any average iPhone owner and tell them that the next iPhone is coming out soon. They will confirm that you are talking about the iPhone 5; without you even saying the number 5.

Also with the current pattern, 5 makes the most sense; 3G -> 3GS -> 4 -> 4S -> 5 -> 5S -> etc.

If it were 6 consumers would be asking "What about iPhone 5?"

iPhone 4GS is too close to iPhone 4S and what would the incremental update be called? iPhone 4GSS?

If it were XL then it would be assumed that they will continue with the 3.5" screen iPhone, which I doubt they will. So it doesn't make sense.

iPhone 4ST is your least stupid name, but it is too messy and Apple has never stated what the "S" means, so why would they attach a letter with a meaning and not have a (publicly known) meaning for the "S"?

iPhone 5 makes more sense than anything you listed, but personally I think they are going to drop the number all together like the iPad.

In any case it isn't even revealed yet and we all know what iPhone 5 means so there is nothing wrong with it. I'd like to see you try to get people to start taking about the iPhone 4ST and not have to explain yourself each time.
 
Hypothesis--No Change Coming, Apple Makes Smartphones Like Consoles

Thought I'd just throw this out for people to comment on and see what people think.

So, I've never been very convinced the long iphone was real, which leads me to wonder what the new phone will look like. I've been thinking big screen, smaller bezel and what not--basically the stuff I'd like. But then something occurred to me (probably to many of you too).

What if iPad dropped it's number to signify the product was mature, and what if the next iPhone is simple "the new iPhone?" Not simply in name, but that the "new" version is basically the same old 3.5" phone (granted with LTE and NFC added this time around).

But that begs the question--why would Apple have ever given up their yearly numbering? It's a great way to get people to upgrade--the auto industry figured this out 75 years ago. But if Apple isn't going by generation, they must have a reason.

My hypothesis is that Apple intends to sell it's products in their current form much like video game consoles.

The benefits are reduced R & D and manufacturing costs, as you only make generational changes every 5-10 years, and you provide a stable platform to attract really good software development. So, for the iPad, maybe we can just figure for the foreseeable future, you're going to get what you can buy today...no big upgrades on a yearly basis.

If Apple did the same with the iPhone, the 3.5" screen, the bezel, the basic shape, the home button....maybe these are all going to stay the same for the next few years.

Tim Cook has pretty much said this, "one resolution iPhone, one size iPad....etc" (I'm paraphrasing). If this is true, just as the Xbox and PS3 see only non-publicized internal upgrades (or minor tweaks like slim versions"), the iPhone really wouldn't change much year to year until they make a big generational leap.

This could also explain a mini-iPad. Apple could sell developers three basic touch based screen sizes to develop for, all using the same tools. Also if you develop an app for today's iPhone, you can assume it will run on future models because the basic hardware architecture isn't going to change.

TL;DR - Apple is done playing the hardware spec race, and is trying to change smartphones basically into consoles.

What do you think? (My initial reaction would be against such a move, but it seems to fit what they're doing.)
 
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They can also do what they did with the new iPad and call it iPhone?

I think Apple needs to start coming up with a standard date, first it was June, now October, now no one knows
An exact date isn't all that important.

Most likely, Apple has moved the iPhone release to the fall, which allows it a chance to show it off at the WWDC in June (and provide training for developers on the new APIs) and provides a couple of months for Apple engineering to finalize the code.

That also gives third-party developers enough time to rewrite their apps to take advantage of the new iOS features. Compressing WWDC, the iOS release and iPhone hardware release in the span of a few weeks doesn't allow for enough time for thoughtful, careful feedback as well as bug fixing.
 
The 'S' stands for Siri, that was confirmed. Also Apple said at WWDC that iOS 6 will be released this Fall which begins September 22. The next iPhone will not be released prior to iOS 6 release.
 
Updated title!

"Verizon Executive Potentially (Perhaps) Suggests a Kind-Of Hint at iPhone Launch in Fourth Quarter 2012, Maybe"
 
Wow this changes everything... Not really duh even the guys in the Apple store say that sort of stuff. And with the name of the device, I agree calling it iPhone 5 makes no sense. It's either gonna be iPhone 6 or just the new iPhone and later referred to as iPhone (6th generation) but then again people will insist on calling it 5th gen as they still think there was an iPhone 2 and 3.... But they will have to move away from this numerical eventually and seeing as they have dropped it from iPad it's the best time to do the same for iPhone!
 
Thought I'd just throw this out for people to comment on and see what people think.

So, I've never been very convinced the long iphone was real, which leads me to wonder what the new phone will look like. I've been thinking big screen, smaller bezel and what not--basically the stuff I'd like. But then something occurred to me (probably to many of you too).

What if iPad dropped it's number to signify the product was mature, and what if the next iPhone is simple "the new iPhone?" Not simply in name, but that the "new" version is basically the same old 3.5" phone (granted with LTE and NFC added this time around).

But that begs the question--why would Apple have ever given up their yearly numbering? It's a great way to get people to upgrade--the auto industry figured this out 75 years ago. But if Apple isn't going by generation, they must have a reason.

My hypothesis is that Apple intends to sell it's products in their current form much like video game consoles.

The benefits are reduced R & D and manufacturing costs, as you only make generational changes every 5-10 years, and you provide a stable platform to attract really good software development. So, for the iPad, maybe we can just figure for the foreseeable future, you're going to get what you can buy today...no big upgrades on a yearly basis.

If Apple did the same with the iPhone, the 3.5" screen, the bezel, the basic shape, the home button....maybe these are all going to stay the same for the next few years.

Tim Cook has pretty much said this, "one resolution iPhone, one size iPad....etc" (I'm paraphrasing). If this is true, just as the Xbox and PS3 see only non-publicized internal upgrades (or minor tweaks like slim versions"), the iPhone really wouldn't change much year to year until they make a big generational leap.

This could also explain a mini-iPad. Apple could sell developers three basic touch based screen sizes to develop for, all using the same tools. Also if you develop an app for today's iPhone, you can assume it will run on future models because the basic hardware architecture isn't going to change.

TL;DR - Apple is done playing the hardware spec race, and is trying to change smartphones basically into consoles.

What do you think? (My initial reaction would be against such a move, but it seems to fit what they're doing.)

its an interesting thought but I would say no. for one, consoles have always had a history of minor updates over a long period of time whereas a new cell phone comes out almost every minute it seems. For another, there is too much competition currently upgrading ever few months for apple to think they can get away with every few years.
 
OS X will also be renamed to just OS with the next release. :D

Actually, split the difference between X and i... That's p

One on the end the other at the beginning...

It's confirmed, the new OS will be named: OPS.

Marketing: The Original OPS! There's never been one before!

Shorthand: OOPS!

Or possibly : That Patented OPS! We own it, so don't try anything!

Shorthand: POPS! (In homage to Poppa Jobs!)

Last thought, put both letters there and just move them toward the center of the alphabet a little.

It's the OS version we'll never see: LOSt!!

Sorry, just with all the fuss about the iPhone name, seemed appropriate.

Hope that brightened someone's day.
 
its an interesting thought but I would say no. for one, consoles have always had a history of minor updates over a long period of time whereas a new cell phone comes out almost every minute it seems. For another, there is too much competition currently upgrading ever few months for apple to think they can get away with every few years.

It just baffles me why they dropped the 3 in iPad and went with just "iPad." Naming by generation has a long history of marketing success.

The move to a static architecture would also help explain why Apple didn't go for a larger screen last year on the 4S..there were certainly many people who wanted it back then.

It would be very risky since all the other manufacturers are pushing ahead with bigger, faster phones that do more.

We'll know more when this next phone comes out. If it's the "new iPhone" and the screen remains at 3.5" I'd say it would go a long way to proving the smartphone=consoles hypothesis.
 
so someone with a higher position at a carrier company acknowledges the rampant rumors surrounding the next iPhone release and everyone turns this into more fuel for the rumor fire?

Get a life...
 
Can we please stop calling it the iPhone 5? It's either the iPhone 6, iPhone 4GS, iPhone 4ST (T = Tall) or iPhone XL. iPhone 5 makes NO sense and would just cause all kinds of confusion.

Actually it's going to be iPhone. They're going to market it as the new iPhone. And from then on, it's just going to be iPhone.

No more 3G, S, 4, yaddi yadda. Plain iPhone, iPad, iPod, Macbook, etc... etc...

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More likely "The new iPhone"

It's just iPhone. Just like it's just iPad. "The new" is not part of the product or model name.
 
Such news

and in other headlines, US sales of candy and turkeys is expected to increase dramatically in the fourth quarter. It's rumored that Halloween and Thanksgiving will occur in late October and late November respectively. :D
 
It just baffles me why they dropped the 3 in iPad and went with just "iPad." Naming by generation has a long history of marketing success.

The move to a static architecture would also help explain why Apple didn't go for a larger screen last year on the 4S..there were certainly many people who wanted it back then.

It would be very risky since all the other manufacturers are pushing ahead with bigger, faster phones that do more.

We'll know more when this next phone comes out. If it's the "new iPhone" and the screen remains at 3.5" I'd say it would go a long way to proving the smartphone=consoles hypothesis.

Not a chance they'll let either product stagnate for years like you suggest. For all its other successes, Apple still makes its BIG profits on the hardware, unlike the game consoles you mentioned earlier. While ever there is a big percentage of the market wiling to upgrade to the latest hardware every one or two years, Apple will continue to try and give them every incentive to do so.
 
So basically, a Verizon executive stated that there's going to a be new iPhone out between October and December...

Why is this newsworthy again?
No, he said a new PHONE, not iPhone. Samsung and Android releases a new phone like every freaking DAY. Big news!
 
Actually it's going to be iPhone. They're going to market it as the new iPhone. And from then on, it's just going to be iPhone.

No more 3G, S, 4, yaddi yadda. Plain iPhone, iPad, iPod, Macbook, etc... etc...

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It's just iPhone. Just like it's just iPad. "The new" is not part of the product or model name.

Apple marketing is pretty much the best out there, so I think you're right, "new iPhone."

...But then you have to explain why they would do such a thing. They've numbered releases to distinguish between generations and help keep people excited about the latest and greatest product.

I can't help but think this part of a larger strategy in which they're willing to forego the successful generational numbering in exchange for something they believe will bring them more money. I think this doesn't augur well for people who want major changes to the basic size, display and functioning of the next several years of iPhones.
 
Not a chance they'll let either product stagnate for years like you suggest. For all its other successes, Apple still makes its BIG profits on the hardware, unlike the game consoles you mentioned earlier. While ever there is a big percentage of the market wiling to upgrade to the latest hardware every one or two years, Apple will continue to try and give them every incentive to do so.

Help me make sense of the iPad naming scheme then. How can it possibly help sales to play down the year-to-year model change?
 
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