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They are relentless. Wow! Will they start charging me for walking in the store next?
 
Hence why I switch to Tmobile.
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I haven't checked out Cricket in a long time. Back in the day they were pretty rough around the edges with service. Was mainly good in urban areas. They use Sprint as an MVNO and I'm not a big fan of Sprint. I'm from Kansas City where their headquarters are and sometimes you couldn't even get service in the area around their headquarters. I'm still amazed that they're in business.

Cricket was purchased by AT&T a while ago. Their service now is basically a capped version of AT&T.
 
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We consumers pay way too much for data and telecommunications these days. Fees like this add a level of mistrust between the consumer and the giant corporation. Glad I don't have Feerizon right now. #VerizonGate2016
You should see what I was paying for mobile service is Canada - my monthly phone bill here (included all taxes) is $72 and in Canada my monthly service was $122.00 (about $96 US)
 
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Verizon should get stuffed. What a bunch of money grubbing pricks.

Why? Hopefully it helps them to be even more profitable.
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I'm glad I'm with T-Mobile who doesn't charge upgrade fees for changing a few numbers in the computer.

Just like Apple doesn't charge more for a dollars worth of RAM or storage.
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At this point, I don't blame Verizon, I blame their stupid customers for putting up with this crap.

Quite similar to Apple customers?
 
Unless you have proof otherwise I believe you're way off base. Apple sells unlocked phones outright every day without activating them, with no fear of "upsetting the carriers." In fact, the iPhone has Apple in the position that they could give two ***s what the carriers think. They're the ones with power in that relationship, not the carriers. The carriers hate the iPhone because of that, BTW.

When I went in to buy an unlocked phone using the Apple Upgrade Program they wouldn't let me get it unless I activated it. They told me that it was because the bank wants the phone out of the box, and activated so that they know you're not just going to buy it on credit, cancel the credit card you used to put it on payments, and resell it overseas without paying for it. Makes perfect sense, because financial institutions have underwriters and loss departments that they have to answer to.
Let's just say I knew about the upgrade plan months before it was announced ;)

By offering a payment plan option on iPhone, Apple are now taking sales away from the carriers own finance plans and therefore profit.

Just because the phone is 'activated' doesn't mean you can't cancel the card and resell it, the whole point of buying through Apple is that you're no longer tied to 2 year contract with a carrier so it's not like you'd be out of pocket by $2000 if you sell the phone!

You'll still owe the bank $700 and your credit score/history will take the hit if you fail to pay the loan off!
 
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If you're not buying it from them, I would assume it falls under the "customer provided equipment" with no fee. It's like they are charging you an additional $20 for the "privilege" of getting the phone from them.

Verizon: We'll overcharge you because we can. I get good coverage on T-mobile, everyone should switch to AT&T, T-Mobile or Sprint to teach these pricks a lesson.
 
Signed up with Verizon last week to get the best $200 off iPhone 6s. I can't believe they charge $70 for 1gb of data a month. After 14 days I'm canceling, paying the ETF and moving to a $30 prepaid plan. What a joke.
 
Verizon: We'll overcharge you because we can. I get good coverage on T-mobile, everyone should switch to AT&T, T-Mobile or Sprint to teach these pricks a lesson.
Except as the very article shows, AT&T and Sprint both have similar fees already in place (even before Verizon). So...
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Signed up with Verizon last week to get the best $200 off iPhone 6s. I can't believe they charge $70 for 1gb of data a month. After 14 days I'm canceling, paying the ETF and moving to a $30 prepaid plan. What a joke.
Doesn't seem like they are charging $70 for 1 GB.
 
I can't wait until they start charging a fee for the time it takes them to do all of the fee calculation.

I wish I could start a simple wireless company.

Need a phone? Buy a phone or pay it off over time.
Need service? Unlimited calling because nobody calls anymore. Unlimited texts because they cost like a millionth of a cent to send. $50/mo
Need an extra line? $10/line/mo
Need data? Pick how much you want and share it with everyone on your plan. $10 per 2GB. Do whatever you want with the data, like tethering, because you paid for it. It's yours.
Taxes? Built into the service and data cost.
Fees? Nope.
Need a tablet data plan? $10/mo plus whatever data you want.
Do whatever you want with your phones. Switch them around—we don't care because you bought them.

It would be so simple. Too bad I don't have a nationwide infrastructure at my disposal.

So if you wanted service with 2GB of data, $60/mo.

Need data for an iPad with 4GB of data? $30/mo.

Service with four lines and 12GB of data? $140/mo.

Service with two lines, iPad access and 8GB of data? $110/mo.

It would be stupid simple.

I'm on T-mobile but one of my parents is on Google's new Project Fi service with a Nexus; were tired of Verizon and looks to be a good service. (except you can only use it on nexus phones; there may be a way to use it on iphones)

-Costs $20/month for unlimited call minutes, unlimited texts
-Costs $10/month for 1 Gb of data and you are refunded $1 for every 100 Mb you don't use.
-International data roaming all over the world at domestic prices.
-Uses Sprint, Wifi, and T-mobile (CDMA and GSM) simultaneously on one SIM, switches to whichever has the strongest signal.
- up to 10 free extra data-only SIM cards.
 
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Doesn't T-mobile also charge a $20 "sim card" fee whenever you add a phone or even when you buy a phone from them? I am pretty sure they do when you are opening a new line... but perhaps they don't do it when upgrading on an existing line?
 
I guess they still have not figured out how to disable using apps on the iphone and then charge to enable them.
They figured out how to lock out Bluetooth's OBEX profile to promote their ringtone buying app years ago in flip phones...

Back to topic, how can they actually justify the "upgrade" cost if the consumer is paying the full purchase price...
 
Except as the very article shows, AT&T and Sprint both have similar fees already in place (even before Verizon). So...
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Doesn't seem like they are charging $70 for 1 GB.

This Project Fi service got me thinking, why can't these carriers start offering refunds for unused data (unless it's unlimited), like they are doing?
What's so unreasonable about not charging us for data we don't use?
 
Let's just say I knew every little detail of the upgrade plan months before it was announced ;)

By offering a payment plan option on iPhone, Apple are now taking sales away from the carriers own finance plans and therefore profit.

Just because the phone is 'activated' doesn't mean you can't cancel the card and resell it, the whole point of buying through Apple is that you're no longer tied to 2 year contract with a carrier so it's not like you'd be out of pocket by $2000 if you sell the phone!

You'll still owe the bank $700 and your credit score/history will take the hit if you fail to pay the loan off!

I call BS on your supposed inside knowledge. If you had so much knowledge you'd know that there is no profit for the carriers on the finance plans. They're financing the phones interest free. So the only thing that Apple is taking away from the carriers is the noose around the neck of the subscriber that forces them to pay off the phone in a lump sum if they leave the carrier before all of the installments are complete.

Yes, you can cancel the card and resell the phone. But you're reselling a phone that has been activated on a carrier already, and has been opened. There is still some risk for the bank, but less so than if they let me walk out the door with an unactivated phone still in the box.

The "Apple is activating the phone to appease the carrier" theory is just bogus. Period.
 
Seems they have hit the part of their business plan where they no longer have the need for customers.
 
I call BS on your supposed inside knowledge. If you had so much knowledge you'd know that there is no profit for the carriers on the finance plans.
You're forgetting the profit built into the retail price of the phone. The carriers were paying wholesale and selling retail. So every phone that Apple sells is money out of the carriers' pockets and into Apple's.
 
will i still get charged this fee if i simply swap out the sim card? buy the phone outright from apple and switch the sim from my current phone?
 
will i still get charged this fee if i simply swap out the sim card? buy the phone outright from apple and switch the sim from my current phone?
Seems like that shouldn't require a charge based in the document included in the article.
 
What the hell is a monthly regulatory compliance recovery fee?


It's a made up fee that companies like Verizon give official sounding names to that make consumers think it's the government charging them. It's not, it's Verizon charging them for no reason other than to make a few extra bucks of pure profit.
 
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