I ordered from Verizon (Space Grey) and was originally told ship date of 11/18. That didn't happen - the "ship by" date changed to 12/4 - that didn't happen. In talking with them last night, I am now told that I have a ship date of 12/28!! (i have not received ANY communication from VZW about these changing dates). Have tried to clarify multiple times in their "chat" box and a phone call but the changing dates and lack of communication are definitely annoying!! I will probably just cancel the order- the Apple Store has what I want in stock!