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Verizon iPhone's Effect On Jailbreaking

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vtmikevt

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I'm curious what a Verizon iPhone would do to the state of jailbreaking.

Would the Verizon iPhone have an altered OS and need to be jailbroken differently / separately? (I'm guessing not)

More users will obviously have SOME huge impact but to what extent.

Anything we should expect to change?
 
I know Verizon doesn't like to use SIM cards, so I could imagine that being an issue. Someone else might have a better guess on it though. Also id imagine differing modem firmware would be an issue?
 
Wait till tomorrow :rolleyes: and we have already talked about this if look at some of the other threads. in brief CDMA is harder because a carrier can either except or decline a device. in other words you can have a unlocked phone from Verizon but Sprint can and probably will say no!
 
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Back when I used to have winMo, the folks at XDA had to cook saperate ROM's for each version of the same phone ( one for the GMS and another for the CDMA) and they still do. They even have different hard SPL for them. I don't know if this would be the case for the iPhone. Maybe it will need two different JB for each version of the phone, maybe not.

I think the dev teams are the ones who can anwser this question, but they need to get their hands on a CDMA iPhone fisrt.
 
dont think jailbreaking will be an issue, unlocking yeah....dont see apple making a separate iOS for verizon
 
There's a slightly altered version of iOS for each iDevice model so I don't think adding another to the mix will change anything on the jailbreaking scene. Unlocking the Verizon iPhone, now that's a different matter.
 
vtmikevt said:
I'm curious what a Verizon iPhone would do to the state of jailbreaking.

Would the Verizon iPhone have an altered OS and need to be jailbroken differently / separately? (I'm guessing not)

More users will obviously have SOME huge impact but to what extent.

Anything we should expect to change?
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"a" Verizon iPhone will have absolutely NO affect on Jailbreaking, or in Unlocking for that matter since CDMA phone are locked to the network anyways. iOS will be no different for one phone to the other one, they just need to add support (drivers) for the new radio(s).
 
maturola said:
"a" Verizon iPhone will have absolutely NO affect on Jailbreaking, or in Unlocking for that matter since CDMA phone are locked to the network anyways. iOS will be no different for one phone to the other one, they just need to add support (drivers) for the new radio(s).
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I know you can't browse the web and talk at the same time with Verizon so I'd have to imagine the iOS would have to vary (even if only slightly) to account for this.

I think the point made above that technically we get different iOS versions for different devices makes sense. This will just be another small variant for the VeriPhone (i'm copyrighting that term).

Thanks for the responses.
 
vtmikevt said:
I know you can't browse the web and talk at the same time with Verizon so I'd have to imagine the iOS would have to vary (even if only slightly) to account for this.

I think the point made above that technically we get different iOS versions for different devices makes sense. This will just be another small variant for the VeriPhone (i'm copyrighting that term).

Thanks for the responses.
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I highly doubt Apple will create, and therefore have to support, different versions of iOS for different carriers. They might have to modify iOS to support them but not create a different version. Odds are, they knew early on they would support different networks and designed iOS accordingly.

It'd be a horrible design if to exploit improvements in the network, e.g., simultaneous browse and talk, required people to upgrade their phones.
 
vtmikevt said:
I know you can't browse the web and talk at the same time with Verizon so I'd have to imagine the iOS would have to vary (even if only slightly) to account for this.

I think the point made above that technically we get different iOS versions for different devices makes sense. This will just be another small variant for the VeriPhone (i'm copyrighting that term).

Thanks for the responses.
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The phones probably won't use different OS versions though. Apple can easily put in hardware-level "functionality flags" that define what the network can do. The app can just ask the system "does this device have the data+voice flag?" and do the appropriate action.
 
Why are we even expecting a CDMA phone why not LTE. Verizon has a fully built out LTE network and ATT is well on the way there.

Apple would be holding back Verizon with a CDMA phone.
 
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Why are we even expecting a CDMA phone why not LTE. Verizon has a fully built out LTE network and ATT is well on the way there.

Apple would be holding back Verizon with a CDMA phone.
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Because at the announcement it was said they were bringing the iPhone to their CDMA network. Have you seen Verizon's LTE coverage map? I don't call that "fully built out".

LTE is just not ready for prime time yet.
 

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Because at the announcement it was said they were bringing the iPhone to their CDMA network. Have you seen Verizon's LTE coverage map? I don't call that "fully built out".

LTE is just not ready for prime time yet.
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Your attached map shows what they launched in early December which covers 38 Metro areas and 110 million of the population. Its not perfect, but wide enough to include the majority of potential iphone users. CDMA will severely restrict the Iphone capability since it cannot support simultaneous voice and data. Did not see the announcement, but would be dissapointed if it is truly CDMA.
 
The CDMA standard that Verizon uses does support simultaneous voice+data, but it requires special hardware that handset makers have for some reason been reluctant to include.

Any word yet on whether the VeriziPhone will have SVDO hardware? If so, there's your simultaneous voice and data.
 
It all depends on if the exploits they are using on the GSM iphone are present on the CDMA iphone.

Without knowing what hardware changes were made this would be difficult to tell...
 
vtmikevt said:
I know you can't browse the web and talk at the same time with Verizon so I'd have to imagine the iOS would have to vary (even if only slightly) to account for this.

I think the point made above that technically we get different iOS versions for different devices makes sense. This will just be another small variant for the VeriPhone (i'm copyrighting that term).

Thanks for the responses.
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Those are functions that can be present on AT&T phone as well just not activated, iOS will be unified, just like when MMS and Tethering was active on Europe but no showing up on AT&T.

Currently Big Red iPhone is running 4.2.5. Which I believe accommodate all this functions, I guess we will see 4.3 unified boh phones.
 
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