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Sure would be nice if we had some kind of regulatory body that could regulate these calls instead of cellular providers profiting form it.

This article is the first I've ever heard of STIR/SHAKEN. A quick Google search of that term finds that it stands for "Secure Telephony Identity Revisited" and "Secure Handling of Asserted information using toKENs". In a nutshell it relies on digital certificates & common public key cryptography techniques virtually identical to SSL/TLS for websites. It will apparently rely on a central certificate authority recognized by all the telcos and overseen by the FCC. It's apparently been in testing for a few years by the Alliance for Telecommunications Industry Solutions (ATIS.)

If even the majority of telcos get on board supporting this it should cut down drastically on the amount of spoofed calls. One can only hope that in the future you can tell whatever carrier you use to simply ignore any calls that don't contain valid STIR/SHAKEN certs.

Edit: Here's a white paper explaining how it works.
 
On my Xs, the app says you have to enable "call blocking & identification " in settings, but the option is not available. Seems like a fail on VZW's part.

I’m having the same problem.

I go to Settings > Phone > Call Blocking & Identification, but there is no option for allowing an app to block calls. The only option listed is “Block Contact...” for manually adding a number. Anyone have a clue here?

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90% of my spam call problem would be solved if Apple allowed me to block 'No Caller ID'.

Or at least handled them the same way my landline phone does.

You can download an app called "Youmail" it blocks no caller id and gives them a recording that they CAN'T leave a message without unblocking their number (This is service is free). Been using it for close to 6 years. It also has other features including custom voicemail's for individual callers that you can assign. It' also has a feature called "Ditch Call," where once a number has been designated to be blocked they get the legit AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile etc (which ever you select) "This number is no longer in service recording" and it won't allow them to leave a message. This is also handy with people you no longer want to talk to, be that old girlfriends etc :)
 
I personally never pick up a call if not in my contact list. If no voice mail left or the voice mail is junk, I block the number. But since these are spoof calls, the numbers are fake.

Yep. But it is still darn annoying to dig your phone out of your pocket in the middle of whatever you are doing just to see it a number you don't know and likely a robo caller. Getting three or four of those a day gets old real quick. I'm hoping this this means my phone rings a lot less.
 
How about this?

Every caller is bonded, and subject to jail for a felony for violations, if we get a robocall/spam/fraud we report the call. After a certain number of complaints, the number is investigated. If found to be a bad call, everyone who reports it, or maybe everyone called, gets $100.

Spoofed numbers automatically pay

A market solution. I bet after 1 or 2 months, robocallers would be out of business and or in jail

Yay!
Except that many of those calls originate from overseas Spam/CallCenters…. like Bangladesh, or Guatemala, or Mehico. The chances of prosecuting them successfully is very slim. And even if it could, the FBI doesn't want to waste billions of dollars prosecuting and chasing down those overseas small phone-fraud operations. It's also wasteful for the FBI to spend millions chasing down those overseas "Nigerian Prince" scammers, and will result in nothing. They'd…. ummm…. much rather spend the resources and US taxpayer dollars chasing down the Drug Cartels, hmm?
 
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App doesnt work at all for me. It demands I enter my phone number, and as soon as i do it asks me again. Infinite loop. Uninstalled.

Did you first login to your Verizon account and enable the service?

Even when I try to enroll my account online receive error that phone isn't supported (but it is supported on their device list / XR).

I got the same message, but just scrolled down the resulting page and there among a bunch of other add-on services was the free filter and I was able to enable it there.
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I go to Settings > Phone > Call Blocking & Identification, but there is no option for allowing an app to block calls. The only option listed is “Block Contact...” for manually adding a number. Anyone have a clue here?
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Did you install the app first? I got this and was able to turn it on.
 
Yep, and it's free, and it does all the things the Verizon paid version does.

It used to be all free. Now if you want to block anything else (telemarketers, surveys, political calls) other than fraud then you have to the $3.99/month for Call Protect Plus.
 
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Did you install the app first? I got this and was able to turn it on.[/QUOTE]

Yes.
 
Oh look, the carriers suddenly offer these filters for Robocalls which they did not care about until recently when the government started saying they would look into robocalls. Proves they’re the ones who always profited from these calls and they still do by charging you a fee to get all the features.
Sounds like the credit bureaus asking you to pay for protection of your credit info when they’re the ones who should make sure it is.
Or like ATT calling 5G something it is not so they can trick you into thinking you get better service which you don’t!
Capitalism at its best!
 
I wonder how the paid service compares to RoboKiller. They are about the same price wise.
I tried Robokiller, I don't know if it was just bad luck or what, but I got more spam calls afterwards. Also, I didn't like the fact that it takes over your voicemail, and most of the pre-recorded answering bots (to me) were a bit obnoxious.
 
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[QUOTE="Weaselboy, post: 27232463, member: 46537"

Did you install the app first? I got this and was able to turn it on.

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I just deleted the app and reinstalled and it still does not work.
 
I get this for free from T-Mobile - WTF Verizon glad I left years ago
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How about this?

Every caller is bonded, and subject to jail for a felony for violations, if we get a robocall/spam/fraud we report the call. After a certain number of complaints, the number is investigated. If found to be a bad call, everyone who reports it, or maybe everyone called, gets $100.

Spoofed numbers automatically pay

A market solution. I bet after 1 or 2 months, robocallers would be out of business and or in jail

Yay!
perfect except the calls are coming from India & Pakistan
 
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We do have a regulatory body. That is not the problem. The issue is that it is impossible to regulate someone dialing a phone number. If you want to call me, do you have to go to the government to get permission to do it?
That’s the joke. The FCC is more concerned in destroying net neutrality than they are with this issue. I’ve had RoboKiller installed on my phone for the last couple months and it’s stopped 50 scam calls already. That’s about a call every couple days. That’s ridiculous. No, I don’t have to go to the government to get permission to call you. But I should have to in order to spoof my phone number to make it mimic yours so you’re more likely to answer my phone call. Robo-calling is illegal in the US, but the FCC does nothing to enforce it, short of taking out a big scam-ring every now and again.

I’m not one to say the government should have more power and add more regulations with a lot of things, but this issue, I’m fine with.
 
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perfect except the calls are coming from India & Pakistan

Just need an accent filter.

Most of the spam callers, I cannot understand a word they are saying.

I can't imagine why anybody thinks these calls are cost-effective.

I wouldn't be surprised to find that the CALLERS are being scammed. I'll bet there are schemes where they are paying some middleman per call and hope to reap some profit above their cost. If they have minimal English skills, they are going to lose on that proposition.
 
My problem is not so much spam calls, but spam TEXTS! Every service I have tried DOES NOT work with texts. SO ANNOYING!
 
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That’s the joke. The FCC is more concerned in destroying net neutrality than they are with this issue. I’ve had RoboKiller installed on my phone for the last couple months and it’s stopped 50 scam calls already. That’s about a call every couple days. That’s ridiculous. No, I don’t have to go to the government to get permission to call you. But I should have to in order to spoof my phone number to make it mimic yours so you’re more likely to answer my phone call. Robo-calling is illegal in the US, but the FCC does nothing to enforce it, short of taking out a big scam-ring every now and again.

I’m not one to say the government should have more power and add more regulations with a lot of things, but this issue, I’m fine with.

Just to confirm, you pay for RoboKiller? Or does their free tier enough?
Have been using Hiya myself, but will turn that off, and give this Vz POS a try.
Thanks.
 
With such crappy reviews on the Apple store for this, I won't waste my time with. I'll continue to just not answer calls from numbers I don't recognize.
 
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