Verizon No Longer Plans to Sell Unlocked iPhones

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Verizon plans to stop selling unlocked smartphones as a way to deter criminals from stealing the devices, the company told CNET.

    As of today, Verizon devices will be locked to the Verizon network and unlocked as soon as a customer signs up for service and activates the phone. Later in the spring, though, smartphones will remain locked until unlocked by Verizon, and Verizon has not yet shared details on how long it will keep phones locked before offering to unlock them.


    Verizon previously sold all of its smartphones, iPhones included, unlocked, which means they were not tied to the Verizon network and could be used with any carrier right after purchase.

    Purchasing a Verizon iPhone has long been a way to get an unlocked device right away, as Apple often does not sell its own unlocked models until several weeks to several months after a new iPhone launches.

    With the iPhone X, for example, all Verizon models sold in November were unlocked and were able to be used across different cellular networks.

    Going forward, the smartphones that Verizon sells will be locked to the Verizon network. Smartphones locked this way will not be compatible with other carriers until unlocked by Verizon, which is similar to how other cellular carriers in the United States operate.

    According to Verizon, the new policy is aimed at preventing criminals from stealing unlocked phones that can be resold or used overseas. "We're taking steps to combat this theft and reduce fraud, Tami Erwin, executive vice president of wireless operations for Verizon told CNET in a statement. "These steps will make our phones exponentially less desirable to criminals.

    Verizon has not yet shared details on how its unlocking policy will work, but if it's like other carriers, such as AT&T, the company will offer to unlock a smartphone after a waiting period. AT&T requires customers to wait for 60 days, Sprint requires customers to wait for 50 days (and then automatically unlocks devices), and T-Mobile has a 40-day waiting period, but does offer temporary unlocking for customers who need to travel.

    AT&T and Sprint require smartphones to be paid off before being unlocked, but CNET says Verizon will allow customers to unlock their devices regardless of whether or not they're paid off once the waiting period has expired.

    Article Link: Verizon No Longer Plans to Sell Unlocked iPhones
  2. icanhazapple macrumors 6502

    Feb 26, 2009
    Moved my whole family off of Verizon to T-Mobile (two 55+ year old parents with the two unlimited lines for $60 total with autopay) and my sister and I are on MetroPCS unlimited single lines ($60 a month for me for 50GB data + 15GB of hot spot data & $50 unlimited smartphone data for her line).

    Was with Verizon since they were Airtouch Cellular. Most greedy company I've ever done business with. I'm so happy I've left them.
  3. Glideslope macrumors 603


    Dec 7, 2007
    A quiet place in NY.
    "These steps will make our phones exponentially less desirable to criminals." Like yourselves ? :rolleyes:
  4. MacknTosh macrumors regular

    Oct 24, 2015
    Obviously a difference in culture. In the UK, all iPhones sold by Apple (from day 1) are unlocked. If I’m not mistaken, buy one on any network and it will also be unlocked.
  5. TheIguana macrumors 6502a


    Sep 26, 2004
    Wow, Canada took one huge step forward this past year (finally) mandating all phones being sold be unlocked while the USA continues the tradition of lock it down...
  6. H.E. Pennypacker macrumors 6502

    H.E. Pennypacker

    Oct 23, 2017
    That’s fine and dandy unless you need cellular service nation wide.
  7. DaveOP macrumors 65816

    May 29, 2011
    Portland, OR
    As a Verizon customer that is happy with the service, and getting an excellent discount through work, I am glad to see this. I am hopeful that the waiting period will be 90 days or less, and this should accomplish exactly what they're stating. When I worked at the Apple Store a few years back, scalpers lined up every day to buy as many Verizon models as we would sell, just to ship them overseas. This should help a lot more Verizon customers get the phones they want, and not have so many non-verizon users trying to take them to other networks.
  8. balderoine macrumors member


    Apr 2, 2016
    Space Gray
    This is high key heartbreaking because one of the reasons I've stuck with Verizon was for the unlocked phones.. Buying and selling unlocked phones, whether for me or family members just made everything much easier. Not a fan.
  9. H.E. Pennypacker macrumors 6502

    H.E. Pennypacker

    Oct 23, 2017
    Listen I don’t understand the hate for Verizon. I have had Verizon since airtouch. CS is always exceptional to me, the cost of the service is not an issue for me as it’s my business phone and it’s the cost of doing business. Service is decent but they all aren’t perfect. These are all 1st world problems to the fullest extent.
  10. democracyrules macrumors 6502a

    Nov 18, 2016
    Glad to hear this. It is about time to limit Verizon phone to only their legit customers like I am. Too many fraudulent activities from other carriers’ customers to get their hand on their phone. Verizon is the best on everything in the US including their phone. The high price is totally worth it. Fortunate for those including myself to be able to afford the cost.
  11. cale508 macrumors 6502

    Jun 10, 2015
    The FCC rules the following:

    e)Handset locking prohibited. No licensee may disable features on handsets it provides to customers, to the extent such features are compliant with the licensee’s standards pursuant to paragraph (b)of this section, nor configure handsets it provides to prohibit use of such handsets on other providers’ networks.

    Verizon as always with it's greediness.
  12. I7guy macrumors P6


    Nov 30, 2013
    Gotta be in it to win it
    So we can still get unlocked Verizon phones through Apple.

    I can see why they might want to do this. As long as they will unlock the phones it shouldn’t be an issue.
  13. kemal macrumors 65816


    Dec 21, 2001
    So people are being mugged for their iPhones because there is a chance it is an unlocked Verizon version?
  14. Beenblacklisted macrumors 6502


    Dec 28, 2011
    In the USA, Telecom companies have a very tight hold in Congress, Lobbyist are relentless when it comes to policies being favorable for them.
  15. AutoUnion39 macrumors 601


    Jun 21, 2010
    They’re basically following in the footsteps of every other carriers. Devices under the payment plan will be sold locked. Pay it off and the device will be unlocked or pay full price (like every other carrier).

    So what’s the issue here?
  16. Kabeyun macrumors 68000


    Mar 27, 2004
    Eastern USA
    Don’t worry. Corporate-friendly (and former Verizon Employee) FCC Chair Ajit Pai probably will get his hands on that bit soon enough. But it will all be with the consumer’s interests in mind. Riiiiiiiiiight...
  17. democracyrules, Feb 12, 2018
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    democracyrules macrumors 6502a

    Nov 18, 2016
    The hatred toward Verizon is mainly due to jealousy of not being able to afford the service costs. Jealousy usually triggers the hatred. Just ignore the hatred comments. Fortunate for us for being able to afford Verizon and free from jealousy any hatred or trolling.
  18. d5aqoëp macrumors 6502a


    Feb 9, 2016
    Many people buy iPhones in contract, unlock them and fly to Middle East and sell them at huge profit.
  19. theoski macrumors member

    Oct 20, 2008
    "We're taking steps to combat this theft and reduce fraud, Tami Erwin, executive vice president of wireless operations for Verizon told CNET in a statement. "These steps will make our phones exponentially less desirable to criminals. ----

    I hear everyday, people feeding other people ******** but this is pretty stupid rationale. Apple needs to create a global IMEI ban program. I heard some countries don't enforce it depending on local regulations.

    Verizon accidentally was one of the progressive carriers but now they are back pedaling.
  20. democracyrules macrumors 6502a

    Nov 18, 2016
    I second this.
  21. liberte1776 macrumors regular

    Apr 3, 2014
  22. cmaier macrumors G5

    Jul 25, 2007
    That's a shame. Hope it's easy to unlock. And article doesn't make it clear if verizon phones sold by Apple will be locked? If I remember correctly, when I buy verizon iPhones from apple they don't even come with sims - the sims are shipped separately. So maybe those are still unlocked.
  23. democracyrules macrumors 6502a

    Nov 18, 2016
    Verizon is the best carrier in the US for network coverage and T-Mobile is not close to their coverage. The high price is worth every penny. It is not greedy as it is business.
  24. Jetfire macrumors 6502

    Jul 10, 2008
    Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
    I thought Apple took care of this with Find my iPhone. This kept stolen phones from activating
  25. ssl0408 macrumors 65816

    Sep 22, 2013
    New York
    I am a Verizon customer and this is not good for the customer. I hope that the FCC steps in and stops them. All phones should be sold unlocked.

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