I'm confused... What is the point of staying up to pre-order an iPhone if the time that you order makes no difference? I see constant updates of shipping and charges from people who have ordered the exact same phone much later than I have, even by several hours. The VZW reps don't have any useful information, everything they say sounds like an automated, scripted response. Their tone is that since I was quoted 9/23, I should have no expectation of receiving it earlier, even if other later orders will. Thanks, Verizon.