I don't think that will happen. Too much money to be made with the tiered plans.
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Verizon Reverses Course on Plan to Throttle Unlimited LTE Customers
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I don't think that will happen. Too much money to be made with the tiered plans.
Ok, that IS ridiculous. I also have unlimited data, but how exactly do you use that much data? Illegal torrents perhaps? It is people like this who do ruin the perception of unlimited data users.
Yep. Consuming bandwidth for its own sake is partly why there is a desire to throttle unlimited data users. Paying for unlimited allows users to access data as needed without worrying about overages. It is abuse just to try to consume as much as is possible, as well as a distortion of the original intent of unlimited data.
Do you even use your phone as a phone? If so, I am curious how you do not use any minutes.
Yep. Still trying to figure out how some people use as much data as possible. I don't think the unlimited data plans were intended to replace home internet. Some may have no other choice, but even my home usage does not rival those who consume TBs of information.
they don't have to go that far. They can unilaterally pull the plug on unlimited anytime you are not under contract.
Bad news for those who have to pay more to make up for this.
And that original quote was kind of passive-aggressive. Although funny, I admit.
True. They own the playing field, and the ball. It is their rules, and if they thought that they could get away with it, they surely would... Even a light user like me.
Although I do pay them more for the current plans that I have than I would pay if I dumped my old plan. But I guess they are dumb enough, I suppose, to not realize that...
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spork!!!
I still don't know how people simply using their unlimited internet is considered abuse. They paid for unlimited. Period. Don't sell something unlimited to people and then say it's not. By the way... t-mobile actually encourages people to watch "as many full HD movies as possible" while using their network. Certainly the opposite of other carrier's attitudes and one I would love to see more of.
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Again... It's really the FCC's win here. Verizon just realized it would be pointless to fight them. But they can some good PR out of it so why not?
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Again... It's really the FCC's win here. Verizon just realized it would be pointless to fight them. But they can some good PR out of it so why not?
I still don't know how people simply using their unlimited internet is considered abuse. They paid for unlimited. Period. Don't sell something unlimited to people and then say it's not. By the way... t-mobile actually encourages people to watch "as many full HD movies as possible" while using their network. Certainly the opposite of other carrier's attitudes and one I would love to see more of.
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Again... It's really the FCC's win here. Verizon just realized it would be pointless to fight them. But they can some good PR out of it so why not?
True that. And I agree with your point about folks paying for unlimited should not be throttled since they pay for unlimited amounts of data. Spot on about selling "unlimited" while it actually is not too.
Kind of like a person paying for all you can eat buffet and then just standing there and sucking down anything and everything that is made available. Sure it's unlimited as a technicality, but that's not really the idea behind that service.I still don't know how people simply using their unlimited internet is considered abuse. They paid for unlimited. Period. Don't sell something unlimited to people and then say it's not. By the way... t-mobile actually encourages people to watch "as many full HD movies as possible" while using their network. Certainly the opposite of other carrier's attitudes and one I would love to see more of.
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Again... It's really the FCC's win here. Verizon just realized it would be pointless to fight them. But they can some good PR out of it so why not?
As for FCC and all that, perhaps it was that, perhaps it was something else.
The only difference is in what VZ agreed to when they acquired the spectrum. They specifically agreed that they would not limit speed based on data use. They are allowed to limit speeds where data use is locally impacting the network. That is the loophole they tried to exploit here and got beat down for.
If you want to look into it more try searching for "Verizon" "block C".
The other interesting part of this is that the agreement (and a later settlement from VZ) prohibits discrimination based on the device. This effectively allows you to take your grandfathered UDP SIM and drop it into an iPad or a hotspot device.
I don't think anyone really knows how much impact there is from those of us with the grandfathered plans. I would argue that we took a leap of faith when this first came out with the Rezound and this is part of the early adopter reward. (And, remember, its not like this is a free ride. I'm running my UDP on a NOTE 2. If I ever want to change to something new, I'll have to pay full price...)
FWIW
DLM
What is the cost per month for comparable wired (cable, fiber, etc.) internet service? $99? $200? That's what it is really "worth" if you are using LTE to replace your home ISP.
It would definitely suck to have to live in your neighborhood.
Sorry, but in the carriers behalf, throttled is still unlimited, albeit slower. They don't, nor have they ever claimed unlimited speed, so by not charging for additional data you are getting the unlimited data you pay for.
Just because you don't like the throttle doesn't make it not so.
This is all true BUT you have to go back to the agreement VZ entered when they bought the spectrum. It is not about the entire network it is about targeting individuals and they are not allowed to reduce speed based on data use.
This is all very specific to VZ, the block c auction and those individuals who have grandfathered data plans from that time period. Other carriers and any plans outside block c are under different rules.
FWIW
DLM
AT&T started with unlimited EDGE for $20/month, during that time decent speed was 3G. When they moved the iPhone to 3G they increased the price to $30/month, and still was unlimited. Again there is limited speed for your connection, it's limited by the maximum hardware speed and there is no way you can get more data in a fixed period of time unless you can also bend space-time.
Then 4G came and LTE.
Time will come when the carriers will try to charge for whatever additional fee they will invent to continue providing a poor service with crippled speeds. Real competition is what is needed with some key regulation that enables the competition not one that is biased towards the same old players.
A simple approach to provide a better service is rollover data.
If there is any developer out there who can create an app to track the data coverage the phone receive during the billing cycle detailing amount of data, minutes and speed provided for upload and download we could be able to be penny pinchers with backup records of what we received vs. what we paid. We are giving away plenty of money for a service that is not reliable nor consistent. There should be a regulation for underage (not sure if this is the right word - I mean opposite of overage) and the carrier should discount that from the bill.
I feel your pain - somewhat, having just scored a new iPhone 6 with UL data on VZW's network. I was an ATTWS>Cingular>ATTWS customer from 1997-2012, when I couldn't take the _________ (<< Fill in the blank) anymore.
I know a few guys that work for VZW and ATTWS in the field, and the news that got them excited for once is summed up here from a couple of days ago: http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...wireless-infrastructure-deployment/2014-10-02
I know there's been some buzz about small cell networks and I'm looking forward to what the FCC brings up on 10/17 - the guys I know are looking forward to being able to fill in "thousands of holes in coverage soon". The carriers can be our bane, local agencies and neighborhood groups wielding the NIMBY and MINFY stick are their bane to improving coverage and much better QOS. Having worked in land development and transportation groups for over 20 years, pushing plans and building infrastructure, working with planners and neighbors is a major PITA sometimes, I get what carriers have to deal with sometimes and there are times I just want to quit and just bag groceries or push a broom - it doesn't pay as well, but I'll spend less on booze and therapy. Small cell networks might allow us to tap into that super-fast fiber in more places! Fingers crossed...
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True. As long as people are using it according to the TOS, then it isn't a problem.
However, if they are using it on a jailbroken phone and using it tethered, then that is a wrong, a scummy thing to do and have subsequently ruined it for the rest of us.
No, they should not.
The TOS specifically doesn't allow for the phone to be used in tethering mode .
Greedy and idiotic people like your friends are ruining it for the rest of us.
Tell them to man up and stop screwing things up for other people.
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Does Verizon allow for tethering on an unlimited plan? That is a strange oversight given that AT&T specifically doesn't allow for that.
Or is the 200G+ all on a mobile device?