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This Video says it all....to me, Verizon embarrassed Apple....not a good start.
I see you're point, but have a different take on it.

No other event or company can embarrass Apple.

For it's Apple themselves that have such grossly distorted ego's and an air of great superiority and narcism. They can do no wrong according to their cult like followers and suck ups like Mossberg & Pogue.
 
What idiots expected lines in physical stores when you could get it way earlier ordering online?

I ordered my iPad online and got it delivered (it was late in the day, and the truck driver looked like he'd had a really loooooong day delivering them), but there were still block long lines at the nearby Apple stores.

Why should the vzn i4 be any different?
 
It is funny here in the NorthEastern US, but several individuals I know who are with Verizon as a carrier went to purchase the iPhone 4, and were talked out of it by the Verizon store employees. Apparently, according to the individual, the staff had said a new phone is coming out that makes the iPhone 4 look like a late 80's Motorola for speed and screen resolution.
 
It is funny here in the NorthEastern US, but several individuals I know who are with Verizon as a carrier went to purchase the iPhone 4, and were talked out of it by the Verizon store employees. Apparently, according to the individual, the staff had said a new phone is coming out that makes the iPhone 4 look like a late 80's Motorola for speed and screen resolution.

That would be the HTC Thunderbolt I am sure (which is the EVO 4G pretty much.) If thats the case than he's right. The EVO is leaps and bounds above iPhone4. However, iPhone 5 being right around the corner I believe will be on top again. Don't count Motorola out though. They are making some great progress with there new Android devices.
 
It is funny here in the NorthEastern US, but several individuals I know who are with Verizon as a carrier went to purchase the iPhone 4, and were talked out of it by the Verizon store employees. Apparently, according to the individual, the staff had said a new phone is coming out that makes the iPhone 4 look like a late 80's Motorola for speed and screen resolution.
Yes, but does it run iOS, apps from the App Store, have iPod ability compatible with Apple's video DRM? iPhone competitors continue to focus on specifications about their devices because that's the only metric they can use to compete. They're completely missing that people use iPhones because of the actual experience using them. Lots of iPhone customers already have Apple-centric lives in other ways so an iPhone is a no-brainier decision for a smartphone. Or maybe they do get it but since they can't license iOS for their phones have to distract consumers other ways.

I own a Sansa Clip+, and I like it -- a lot. It's as small as the original clip iPod Shuffle, gets good battery life, has more features, it has a screen. Two problems.

  1. First, the Clip can not play AAC files. My entire CD library has been ripped to my PC in AAC so I cannot play any of my CDs (only MP3s I've bought online). That could be solved by reripping my library if I wanted to badly. But there's also my purchases from the (old) DRMed iTMS.
  2. The second problem is all my music files are in iTunes, which I love as a digital audio player, with ratings, Smart Playlists set up, etc. I cannot use iTunes to interface with the Clip, I have to use Windows Media Player -- and I hate using it. It doesn't recognize compilation albums as a single album even if I have the tagging for the songs set that way, it's harder to navigate, nothing is rated like I had in iTunes (not gonna redo all that), and it has no Smart Playlist function.
I ended up buying a used 4th gen iPod Nano. I preferred the size of the Clip and generally only listen to music, not watch videos, but I wanted a screen (the new 6th Gen Nano wasn't an option for reasons I wont get into, I'll buy one eventually). Here I had a perfectly good $20 (factory refurbished) MP3 player I'd bought and loved and I still ponyed up another $90 for a used Nano.

It's all about ease of use and compatibility with your life.
 
Yes, but does it run iOS, apps from the App Store, have iPod ability compatible with Apple's video DRM? iPhone competitors continue to focus on specifications about their devices because that's the only metric they can use to compete. They're completely missing that people use iPhones because of the actual experience using them. Lots of iPhone customers already have Apple-centric lives in other ways so an iPhone is a no-brainier decision for a smartphone. Or maybe they do get it but since they can't license iOS for their phones have to distract consumers other ways.

I own a Sansa Clip+, and I like it -- a lot. It's as small as the original clip iPod Shuffle, gets good battery life, has more features, it has a screen. Two problems.

  1. First, the Clip can not play AAC files. My entire CD library has been ripped to my PC in AAC so I cannot play any of my CDs (only MP3s I've bought online). That could be solved by reripping my library if I wanted to badly. But there's also my purchases from the (old) DRMed iTMS.
  2. The second problem is all my music files are in iTunes, which I love as a digital audio player, with ratings, Smart Playlists set up, etc. I cannot use iTunes to interface with the Clip, I have to use Windows Media Player -- and I hate using it. It doesn't recognize compilation albums as a single album even if I have the tagging for the songs set that way, it's harder to navigate, nothing is rated like I had in iTunes (not gonna redo all that), and it has no Smart Playlist function.
I ended up buying a used 4th gen iPod Nano. I preferred the size of the Clip and generally only listen to music, not watch videos, but I wanted a screen (the new 6th Gen Nano wasn't an option for reasons I wont get into, I'll buy one eventually). Here I had a perfectly good $20 (factory refurbished) MP3 player I'd bought and loved and I still ponyed up another $90 for a used Nano.

It's all about ease of use and compatibility with your life.


I agree. Its not about the phone or its specs. Its the iTunes store and its apps, video and music. I have an Android phone as a backup that I like to play with and it outspecs the iPhone in about every way, but the Android Marketplace is a pale shadow of the iTunes store.
 
No Lines!!!!

i saw how apple stores didnt have any lines in their stores... well what else would you expect.. Verizon gave there customers plenty of days before apple launch of the iphone.
 
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