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Someone brought up LTE in another thread. Apple wouldn't have to do anything to the hardware at that point.
 
What orifice did you pull those numbers out of?

Actually, your numbers point to even MORE of a reason why Sprint doesn't make sense for the iPhone. With 12% of the market share and declining, they are tied with T-Mobile, which already runs GSM and HSPA. If Apple wants to expand carriers in the US but wants to avoid Verizon, T-Mobile is the next best choice. Not Sprint.

If Verizon wants to sell the iPhone on Verizon or Sprint, they'd have to re-engineer the entire RF section of the phone. Or, they could just enable T-Mobile's 3G band on the GSM version, probably with far less effort.
 
Sprint coverage is great where I live. Actually, went ahead and got an Epic as a home line/back-up phone. It's great as a phone, but as awesome as the Epic's hardware is supposed to be, it can't seem to handle playing music and doing anything else. Not well, anyway. And the 3G upload seems to be capped at 150kbs.
 
Why not both?

I never understood why so many iPhone users are scared of seeing the phone on different carriers.

The only conclusion I can come up with is they'll lose even a bit more social status when the number of people with the phone doubles practically overnight. The days of wowing people with your iPhone are over anyway, might as well get used to the fact the coolness factor wore out. It's not that they're bad phones, it's just iPhones are the Toyotas now instead of the BMWs they once were. Useful, reliable, affordable, and common.
 
Actually they could make one GSM version that supported both AT&T/T-Mob bands, One with Verizon bands and one with Sprints bands. Just enough to cover the major networks. I think this has been done with other phones like the RAZR and BB Pearl/Curve.

So what good is an unlocked iphone if you can just use it on 2 carriers and you would need another unlocked phone for the other 2 major carriers?
Mind as well get the subsidy and pay $199 instead of $600.

Or, they could just enable T-Mobile's 3G band on the GSM version, probably with far less effort.

They cant just enable something that is not there.
They will have to update the hardware to include Tmobiles 3G bands.
 
They cant just enable something that is not there.

We're not entirely sure it isn't there to being with.


They will have to update the hardware to include Tmobiles 3G bands.

That's still easier and more realistic than re-engineering a CDMA model.

Why not both?

I never understood why so many iPhone users are scared of seeing the phone on different carriers.

The only conclusion I can come up with is they'll lose even a bit more social status when the number of people with the phone doubles practically overnight.

Nice imagination you have there. But I'm just more of a pragmatist, and anyone familiar with Apple even slightly knows that Apple once almost killed itself by overdiversifying its product line and now, they compensate for that by going to the other extreme, keeping things simple, uniform and standard. Going back and making another version of the iPhone that's not network compatible runs counter to that. So, it's unrealistic to expect that a Verizon or Sprint version will come out mid-cycle.

And if there's anything I'm afraid of, it's that the number of posts on this forum will be what doubles overnight. Mostly from people who still don't know the difference between CDMA and GSM/HSPA, and will angrily and ignorantly demand to know why their jailbroken and "unlocked" Verizon iPhone won't work on AT&T or T-Mobile, and vice-versa.
 
We're not entirely sure it isn't there to being with.

We are, there has been plenty of teardowns showing all components.
If there was another 3G band capable it would have to be cleared by the fcc.
Its not as simple or as easy as you think like a software update and all iphones now work with tmobiles 3G.
If you really believe that I got a bridge for ya:D
 
I agree, people are leaving Sprint left and right. Why would anyone want Sprint?

I don't understand why people dislike Sprint. They served me extremely well for 10 years, and the only reason I left was because I decided that I was finally going to get an iPhone. But if Sprint had the iPhone, I never would have switched carriers.
 
I don't understand why people dislike Sprint. They served me extremely well for 10 years, and the only reason I left was because I decided that I was finally going to get an iPhone. But if Sprint had the iPhone, I never would have switched carriers.

Exactly my story. I travel a good bit and have honestly can't remember dropping a call on my blackberry. The PRE was a different story but that was a hardware/software issue that was eventually rectified by updates. The network served me extremely well.

Engadget is running a story about the sprint CEO saying they can only offer unlimited data plans as long as the usage is reasonable.... meaning..... exactly what you think it means.
 
Exactly my story. I travel a good bit and have honestly can't remember dropping a call on my blackberry. The PRE was a different story but that was a hardware/software issue that was eventually rectified by updates. The network served me extremely well.

Engadget is running a story about the sprint CEO saying they can only offer unlimited data plans as long as the usage is reasonable.... meaning..... exactly what you think it means.

My friend is using her EVO as a mobile hotspot & the sole connection to the internet for her laptop now. I'm sure she'll be thrilled to hear this.
 
I hope the iPhone goes to all the major carriers in the US. More people off AT&T more iPhone's sold more money for apple and in return more money for me (shearholder). Also if Sprint were to get the iPhone and if they could get a lot of people to jump ship maybe AT&T would lower their plans.

I don't see Sprint getting the iPhone for the fact that they went Wimax and almost everyone else is going LTE.
 
They cant just enable something that is not there.
They will have to update the hardware to include Tmobiles 3G bands.

Yet again posting more crap thats 60% wrong.

WE KNOW the iPhone's antenna's frequency range can go down to 800 MHz and up to 2100 MHz. It might actually be wider but that's not the point. T-Moble uses 1700/2100 MHz for its 3G range, both of which are WITHIN the iPhones current abilities. So all the phone needs is a software upgrade (most likely baseband) telling it 1700 is a usable radio frequency.
 
Yet again posting more crap thats 60% wrong.

WE KNOW the iPhone's antenna's frequency range can go down to 800 MHz and up to 2100 MHz. It might actually be wider but that's not the point. T-Moble uses 1700/2100 MHz for its 3G range, both of which are WITHIN the iPhones current abilities. So all the phone needs is a software upgrade (most likely baseband) telling it 1700 is a usable radio frequency.

Lol :D
You're way off on this bro, trust me.
 
Lol :D
You're way off on this bro, trust me.

Trust you? Why? You are wrong 60% of the time like right now. Nice logic backing up your statement tho.

Here in America we use 87.8 MHz to 108.0 MHz for FM broadcasting. Show me 1 radio that can do 87.9 and 107.9 MHZ but CAN'T do a frequency in the middle.
 
I agree, people are leaving Sprint left and right. Why would anyone want Sprint?
If all I cared was price I'd go with metro pcs or boost.

Well, do you even know who is Metro PCS part of???

And Boost mobile was the pre paid service from Nextel, that was bought by Sprint PCS 4-5 years ago when they were asked to free up the frequency they use for their 2 way because it was creating problems for the emergency communications...

So yeah, you go a head and go with ether of them, so your money can end up with Sprint PCS... :D Oh, and before anyone suggests Virgin Mobile, do you know who owns that??? :rolleyes:
 
Trust you? Why? You are wrong 60% of the time like right now. Nice logic backing up your statement tho.

Here in America we use 87.8 MHz to 108.0 MHz for FM broadcasting. Show me 1 radio that can do 87.9 and 107.9 MHZ but CAN'T do a frequency in the middle.

It's not possible simply with a firmware update to enable Tmobile 3G compatibility.
Say and claim what you want but your assumption is false.
That modification can only be done during manufacturing and not after the fact.
You are clueless.
 
It's not possible simply with a firmware update to enable Tmobile 3G compatibility.
Say and claim what you want but your assumption is false.
That modification can only be done during manufacturing and not after the fact.
You are clueless.

Yet again no logic backing up your statements, what modifications? You mean hooking up the 3G chip to the antenna, oh wait that's already done.

Just can't admit you are wrong can you?
 
Yet again no logic backing up your statements, what modifications? You mean hooking up the 3G chip to the antenna, oh wait that's already done.

Just can't admit you are wrong can you?

If I am wrong I have no prob saying I didn't know or I made a mistake. I think it's the other way around with your hopeful assumptions but it's not as simple as you think.
This has been discussed hundreds of times and what you suggest is not possible. Read up or research on it or if you want I can point you to a few threads about it.
 
What orifice did you pull those numbers out of?

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I knew I was on the right track but to lazy to look up the actual numbers.
 
If Apple is actually considering making a CDMA phone, wouldnt Sprint be another obvious market? They have a great data network and they roam on Verizon towers due to their contract for free roaming on Altel towers. Plus their plans are FAR more affordable etc...

Anyone else hoping for this?

No, not really, cool story though
 
Guys its all speculation. If you can help it, don't be rude.
No one really knows what is going to happen, he was just tossing out an idea. We can all still afford to be civil.

Remember when the iP4 got leaked and everyone screamed about how it was fake how they would stab themselves in the eyes/jump off a bridge/etc. if that ended up being the real iPhone?
 
14% of the worldwide market is CDMA so that means that Apple are building a phone that doesn't work for 86% of the world's networks. It's also exceptionally unpopular in Europe.

Why would they bother?

Because that 14% of the worlds population is 96 million potential Iphone sales?
 
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