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This wouldn’t be unreasonable and infuriating if the service providers didn’t brag confidently about their networks’ abilities to accommodate demanding usage. Obviously, they’re exaggerating (lying) about their capabilities.
 
First they throttled BitTorrent users, but I didn't react because I don't torrent. Then they throttled people streaming 4K video, but I didn't react because I don't have a 4K TV. Then they throttled people who tether, but I didn't react because I don't tether.

Then they throttled my VPN connection to my office. But by then throttling had become accepted by "the majority", so nobody could help me.

PS: What a very meticulously planned and well timed experiment, Verizon. Right after the net neutrality protest too. Sorta like the kid who couldn't "throttle" his candy consumption after trick-or-treating. Just couldn't wait to start flexing your muscles, could you...
 
That they only needed to "test" throttling with video services that compete with their own is what raises flags in my mind.
 
But Verizon will sell you their own HD-TV content for just 80 bucks a month.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with Netflix being a direct competitor ;-)

I'm sure it does. That's why the ISPs should be limited to Internet Providers. You should have your own TV Box if you want, and pay one price for the fastest internet only. Cable is a '70s invention, and should go straight to the boneyard. Internet streaming video, subscription services with who you choose, not the cable execs. ISPs, once they lose their monopoly power, they will make less money. But so what?
 
I'm glad I ditched Verizon earlier this year for T-Mobile and locked in my One plan at $56 a month. Yes their network isn't as good as Verizon's but at half the cost I can hold out until T-mobile gets their 600mhz network up and running.
I did the opposite. I ditched TMobile after having continuous signal issues in building, basement etc. I am glad I do not have any signal issue in building in general and I have peace of mind of having the best coverage area network in the country superceding TMobile. More monthly cost is not a big deal to me so I chose the best one as I always do for other things.
 
None of this would have happened if infrastructure providing companies were NOT allowed to provide content.
 
Should as long as your CPU supports AES-NI, so your download speeds wont be slowed due to decryption.

This will only bypass temporarily until Verizon starts banning outbound VPN traffic. (BTW Netflix already blocks certain VPN services due to geolocation license restrictions etc) Verizon can and will do that to well known VPN services mark my words. Its pretty trivial to determine what is VPN traffic even if it is encrypted or at the very least gather up IP ranges for services that provide it i.e. Tunnel Bar, NordVPN, Disconnect, etc.

Then Verizon will offer a service for their nifty Verizon VPN service that will protect you wink wink while simultaneously selling your traffic information.
 
None of this would have happened if infrastructure providing companies were NOT allowed to provide content.

I think the carriers should be allowed to provide content.

They just can't limit other content. There shouldn't be limits on ANY content.

Besides... does anything think this will make you cancel Netflix and sign up with Verizon's homegrown video service instead?

Is that really Verizon's plan here?
 
Yeah, laws can not be reversed, so just get used to it. Do not question, just accept and go back to grazing.

Why the snark? It's been bought and paid for by those who are really in charge, and they are not going to want to give us back a Neutral Internet. Heck, thanks to politicians, they OWN the internet.

Who's grazing?
 
I think the carriers should be allowed to provide content.

They just can't limit other content. There shouldn't be limits on ANY content.

Besides... does anything think this will make you cancel Netflix and sign up with Verizon's homegrown video service instead?

Is that really Verizon's plan here?

ISPs becoming content providers seems harmless, but it's a part of their evil master plan.

Content providers have less restrictions than telecommunication companies.

So what Verizon/Comcast is trying to do is be labeled as content providers. This has less restrictions and most notably allows them to track users.

Their argument is if Facebook can track users why can't Comcast?

The BIG difference is Facebook tracks you while using their services. You have the option to quit Facebook. You can't quit Comcast and they can track ALL traffic, not just Comcast services.

The ISPs are pure evil. Their dream is to track and throttle every user and monetize every aspect of the internet.
 
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I think the carriers should be allowed to provide content.

They just can't limit other content. There shouldn't be limits on ANY content.

Besides... does anything think this will make you cancel Netflix and sign up with Verizon's homegrown video service instead?

Is that really Verizon's plan here?

Well, they don't want any regulation, cause... "greed is good" (sic) probably, so the question is never should they provide content (they indeed have already), but should they either put their content above all others, or make companies or users pay more to get service on par with what those telecoms can offer.

If they weren't monopolies, the question would be easy to answer... Yes, they could indeed feature their own content above others. But, they are not and that's why they need to be regulated.

When you get a monopoly position from government; you must accept regulations that come with it.
 
Welcome to Net Neutrality, people. The new FCC chair is a big believer in ending the practice.
 
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Must be nice. I had t-mobile and if I was outside I'd have 2 bars. Then, I'd close the door and go to no service. I drove cross country and had I broken down, I would have been screwed royally.

I was actually at a shopping center across the street from a T-mobile store and had no service. T-mobile's price is nice. But their coverage is awful.

I think when people talk about coverage they need to talk about where they live. I live in the southeast and VZ coverage is terrible. My neighbors had VZ and had to get a network extender for their house. Step outside and VZ stops working. TMO on the hand is great, and blazingly fast. Coverage here is something like ATT > TMO >>> VZ. Also, if you do much traveling to Europe TMO >>> other US carriers.
 
"According to Verizon, the optimization test did not impact actual quality of video, which is true in most cases, but some YouTube users noticed downgraded quality resolved through using a VPN."

If you are using a VPN, how would the ISP even know that you are accessing YouTube?
 
"According to Verizon, the optimization test did not impact actual quality of video, which is true in most cases, but some YouTube users noticed downgraded quality resolved through using a VPN."

If you are using a VPN, how would the ISP even know that you are accessing YouTube?

They don't. Which is why Verizon couldn't target those users in their optimization tests.

If they weren't monopolies, the question would be easy to answer... Yes, they could indeed feature their own content above others. But, they are not and that's why they need to be regulated.

When you get a monopoly position from government; you must accept regulations that come with it.

Precisely. If they weren't monopolies, we wouldn't have this problem.

What's interesting is everyone wants a fast and open internet, but how that's achieved is vastly different depending on who you ask.

What does that mean? It means one side is full of crap and is trying to deceive the public.
 
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It's required for accurate simulations designed to predict how much they can expect to benefit from the freedom of bondage from net neutrality.

That's my guess anyway.
 
Welcome to Net Neutrality, people. The new FCC chair is a big believer in ending the practice.
Actually net neutrality prohibits this kind of behavior and the new FCC chair wants to allow and even encourage it by eliminating net neutrality.
 
IMHO, not that big of a deal. They explained why, the test is over now. I'm sure all networks do those kinds of tests, and of course, they'd prefer to throttle outside companies, not their own, so they don't lose money. Sucks, but at least it's just a test and temporary.

Just my two cents.
 
T-Mobile's announcement got to Verizon's head and caused them to react negatively.

http://www.fiercewireless.com/wirel...network-slowed-14-after-launch-unlimited-data

I'm a Verizon customer nearing my end contract date and am considering switching to T-mobile. Even though I've got Verizon grandfathered unlimited data but what's the point if they're going to throttle traffic and increase data plan by $20.
If they increase their unlimited any further I will be going back to T-Mobile.
 
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